me last year

[JBarron]

eat well , take 3 x 50mg winstrol depot per week, you doný need test for what you are aiming for bro.

do a light pct with some chlomid only and your done. But make sure you rdiet makes sence before starting

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=438854

[jksportssupply]

buddy i am not saying you have to follow my advice. it's just advice based on 13 years of experience and a lot of research

[Noles12]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=438854

No offense to the OP but a lot of bodybuilders that have been in the game a while dont always do things that are great for your health. A lot of old pros still recommend what they got big on but it may not be the best for your health because that wasnt a worry back in the day.

The advice he gave is not accepted as being good or safe. But i dont think it would make me think he wasnt who he says he is.

[jksportssupply]

No offense to the OP but a lot of bodybuilders that have been in the game a while dont always do things that are great for your health. A lot of old pros still recommend what they got big on but it may not be the best for your health because that wasnt a worry back in the day.

The advice he gave is not accepted as being good or safe. But i dont think it would make me think he wasnt who he says he is.

oooeeepppffff old bodybuilder, dude i'm 31 don't make it worse than it is hahahaha

[Noles12]

oooeeepppffff old bodybuilder, dude i'm 31 don't make it worse than it is hahahaha

Not calling you old but you have been in the game a lot longer then a lot of the guys here.

[gbrice75]

Not calling you old but you have been in the game a lot longer then a lot of the guys here.

Agreed, and the cycle advice given in that other thread is old school thought and not acceptable by today's standards.

[jksportssupply]

Agreed, and the cycle advice given in that other thread is old school thought and not acceptable by today's standards.

ok understood but i do not agree with you, why is it in your opinion bad advice ?

[Gaspari1255]

ok understood but i do not agree with you, why is it in your opinion bad advice ?

Because it is kind of an unwritten law that anything without test is a no no. Although a handful of people will argue that Var alone is doable because it is weak. I would definitely take winny with some test to avoid shut down. The only reason I can see people running winny alone is maybe a few weeks before a show because they do not want to hold the least bit of water from test. (Although a low dose of Prop and an AI would work just fine.) The PCT should include Nolvadex also, imo.