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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel. View Post
    Lol, you're right I do. It's the biggest compliment when someone says this to me. All I've done is SERIOUSLY dial in my diet and training, and of course, I began my first cycle of test, which I'm running now. It's great you point this out, because I would like to give a TON of credit here to Ronnie Rowland and his STS training system/cycling. That is what I have been utilizing, and have seen nothing short of STELLAR results.
    To be honest they look like 3 yrs apart rather than 3 months, can you post the same pose's with your face open,let me see the actual difference, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    To be honest they look like 3 yrs apart rather than 3 months, can you post the same pose's with your face open,let me see the actual difference, thanks
    Lol damn Arch you should feel even more special they don't think it's you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisx View Post
    Lol damn Arch you should feel even more special they don't think it's you!
    I dont think you understand what i written, I will try and put it a little easier for you!

    The photos look like they are 3 yrs apart not 3 months (that was a compliment), could you post pics of the exact same pose's with your face on so we can see the transformation

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisx View Post
    Lol damn Arch you should feel even more special they don't think it's you!
    Thanks chrisx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    To be honest they look like 3 yrs apart rather than 3 months, can you post the same pose's with your face open,let me see the actual difference, thanks
    Okay, first I have to make a correction. I did a little combing back through the calendar, and the time span between the pics is more like 15 weeks to be totally honest. Sorry for the slight misleadment there, but now everyone has the true facts. As for the pics you are requesting, I don't have a before and after front shot of the EXACT same pose, but what I can post for you is a before with my hands down by my side, then the after that you now see in my avy. I will also post a before and after back shot of pretty much the exact same pose. However marcus (and everyone) please give me a couple days to do this, as I am leaving to visit my baby girl in about 5 minutes, and will be back on tuesday, so I don't have the time to do it now. However, when I come back I will show something else that's very inspiring as well; I will post my 5 month before and after pics! I swear you guys won't even recognize me! Thanks for your patience everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel. View Post
    Okay, first I have to make a correction. I did a little combing back through the calendar, and the time span between the pics is more like 15 weeks to be totally honest. Sorry for the slight misleadment there, but now everyone has the true facts. As for the pics you are requesting, I don't have a before and after front shot of the EXACT same pose, but what I can post for you is a before with my hands down by my side, then the after that you now see in my avy. I will also post a before and after back shot of pretty much the exact same pose. However marcus (and everyone) please give me a couple days to do this, as I am leaving to visit my baby girl in about 5 minutes, and will be back on tuesday, so I don't have the time to do it now. However, when I come back I will show something else that's very inspiring as well; I will post my 5 month before and after pics! I swear you guys won't even recognize me! Thanks for your patience everyone.
    Bullshit and because you've made this statement you lose all credibility...
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    Same guy, same ink....same same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Same guy, same ink....same same?
    Yes, I am asking what as he done over the last 3 months because he looks different

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Yes, I am asking what as he done over the last 3 months because he looks different
    I agree he certainly does! A superb transformation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    I agree he certainly does! A superb transformation!
    Thank you VERY much. I've been wanting to post the pics together as like a 12 week before and after. I think it would be a great testament to Ronnie Rowlands STS training, and also what serious commitment, dedication and perseverance can do for someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg View Post
    Same guy, same ink....same same?
    Yes, I'm the same guy, no bullshit

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    Great transformation in such a short time frame indeed.

    BTW, you can multi-quote responses instead of making new posts for each time you answer someone. A much quicker way that will save you some time lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Great transformation in such a short time frame indeed.

    BTW, you can multi-quote responses instead of making new posts for each time you answer someone. A much quicker way that will save you some time lol..
    Oh, lol I didn't know that, Thanks!

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    Yeah just find the person you want to reply to and click the quote button on the bottom right hand corner of their post. Then apply the same method to each person you want reply back too. Once finished click post reply at the bottom of the page and you are set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Yeah just find the person you want to reply to and click the quote button on the bottom right hand corner of their post. Then apply the same method to each person you want reply back too. Once finished click post reply at the bottom of the page and you are set.
    That should save some time, thanks

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    O.K. I will reduce carbs by 50 on no activity day, (I just went and did 30 minutes cardio anyway,lol). So, the way my Split works, I'll be carbing up on chest/shoulder day and then again on leg day. Makes sense, thanks again...

    BTW, the transformation is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    O.K. I will reduce carbs by 50 on no activity day, (I just went and did 30 minutes cardio anyway,lol). So, the way my Split works, I'll be carbing up on chest/shoulder day and then again on leg day. Makes sense, thanks again...

    BTW, the transformation is amazing.
    Good stuff. Remember, it's a very individualistic thing, so you may have to tweak it here and there, but I feel 50g is a good starting place. Thanks for the compliment.

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    Archangel I am having trouble with the rear traps area and rear delts. What exercises do you like to attack these with? I see some guys do something that looks like a bentover barbell row only they are almost standing (only slightly hunched over) and I can never tell if they just have terrible form or are intentionally hitting the rear traps area or what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrydrpepper View Post
    Archangel I am having trouble with the rear traps area and rear delts. What exercises do you like to attack these with? I see some guys do something that looks like a bentover barbell row only they are almost standing (only slightly hunched over) and I can never tell if they just have terrible form or are intentionally hitting the rear traps area or what.
    I like to attack rear delts primarily with reverse pec-deck, as I find I can get a real squeeze and keep constant tension on the muscle by not letting the stack go all the way down on the negative portion. I find it's beneficial to get that "squeeze" on the positive, and hold it for a second or so. I also like doing rear delts with a cable while standing. This is performed by adjusting the height of the pulley on a push-down station, so that the pulley is about shoulder height to you. I hold the station with the non-working arm for stability, grab the cable, keeping it at almost full arms length, then perform the positive almost as if you were bitch slapping someone (sorry for the comment). On both these I also find it beneficial to grip only with my thumbs, so I can turn my hand sideways, as if doing a karate chop. I feel this helps add tention to the target area (rear delt).
    I feel the row you're referring to is intentionally done by some as a means to work traps, yes. Having said that, I feel you can accomplish the same thing with t-bar rows executed in the same manner. This is also easier on the lower back, assuming your t-bar station has a pad to rest your chest on as some do. I simply do and prefer smith machine shrugs. I perform six sets at the end of my back workout, however, I also attribute a lot of my trap development to rack pulls/dead lifts. Hope this helps

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    His tats dont match upon careful inspection.
    I am calling BS.
    And I am going to go ahead and say its pretty silly yo posts and official questions and answer thread on a forum that is an official question and answer forum as a whole - UNLESS you are a vet or have enough experience to reckon your responses would carry more weight than the average visitors.
    I have as much - if not more exp than the OP and I would not consider this.
    All in all I think this whole thread is silly and I am glad to have gotta to raise my post count in it.

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    His tats dont match upon careful inspection.
    I am calling BS.
    No offense bud, but I think you either need your eyes checked or your computer monitor cleaned, 'cause that's the exact same tat.

    And I am going to go ahead and say its pretty silly yo posts and official questions and answer thread on a forum that is an official question and answer forum as a whole - UNLESS you are a vet or have enough experience to reckon your responses would carry more weight than the average visitors.
    That's just your opinion, but there are those that approve and appreciate the fact that I'm trying to help

    I have as much - if not more exp than the OP and I would not consider this.
    What are you basing this statement on?!? You don't know the second thing about me or my life. Are you purely basing your above statement on the fact that you have more posts than me on this forum? That would be utterly ridiculous. C'mon bud, are you really gonna try to cut me down based on these ridiculous reasons? Don't hate on me because I enjoy helping people, and had the courage to open my own thread after being encouraged to do so by several members, it's not my fault you either lack the caring or the balls to open a thread of your own. Pull up, man, I'm here trying to help people.

    All in all I think this whole thread is silly and I am glad to have gotta to raise my post count in it.
    I think I speak for for most when I say in the future, please keep my thread to either questions regarding diet/training, or just positive comments in general. If you are really feeling that negative and/or insecure about yourself, pm me if you feel the need to express it that bad, thanks

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    OKAY! This is for everyone waiting on my pics!

    OKAY! This is for everyone waiting on my pics!

    I just got back from visiting my daughter, and I scored the before pics of myself off my gf's computer! They will be attached in this order:
    First pics; me in Feb, front/side/back shots.
    Second pics; me in March, front/side/back shots
    Third pics; me in April, front/side/back shots
    Fourth pics; me now, front/back shots (I don't have a side shot, sorry)

    K, I can only upload 5, will do the rest next post
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    Some more...
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    And the final afters

    I hope you guys like them!

    I raise my right hand to god and SWEAR these are ALL me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyB View Post
    His tats dont match upon careful inspection.
    I am calling BS.
    And I am going to go ahead and say its pretty silly yo posts and official questions and answer thread on a forum that is an official question and answer forum as a whole - UNLESS you are a vet or have enough experience to reckon your responses would carry more weight than the average visitors.
    I have as much - if not more exp than the OP and I would not consider this.
    All in all I think this whole thread is silly and I am glad to have gotta to raise my post count in it.
    ^^^ridiculous comment

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    What were your starting and finishing stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    What were your starting and finishing stats?
    Ya sorry, I meant to post those, but I was too excited to show everyone the pics I forgot.

    Starting stats (in Feburary)
    Height: 5'7''
    Weight: 218-220 (on any given day)
    Chest: 48"
    Waist: 42" (OUCH)
    Arms: 18"
    Thighs: 26"
    Forearms: 13"

    Stats Now
    Height: 5'7
    Weight: 185-188 (on any given day)
    Chest: 45"
    Waist: 32"
    Arms: 17 1/2"
    Thighs: 25"
    Forearms: 13 1/2"

    That's all the measurements I took.

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    Wow.... those Pics you posted are amazing. I would say good fuken work if it took you a year but you're saying 15 weeks?? That's amazing.

    I am going through a similar transformation right now and I am only 15 weeks into it and I think its gonna take me minimum 7 to 8 months total to make the change.

    Not that its relevant, but how old are you? You look 22.... 24 max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    Wow.... those Pics you posted are amazing. I would say good fuken work if it took you a year but you're saying 15 weeks?? That's amazing.
    No man, the first 3 pics are from Feburary, the second 3 are from March, and the final 3 are from April. It's been about 15 weeks since the final 3 to the afters.

    I am going through a similar transformation right now and I am only 15 weeks into it and I think its gonna take me minimum 7 to 8 months total to make the change.

    Not that its relevant, but how old are you? You look 22.... 24 max.
    I'm 25, 26 in October.

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    Eating my words..
    Smacking myself in the face for you.
    Good work.
    Can I have another slice of humble pie please.

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    [QUOTE=LeroyB;5284642]Eating my words..
    No hard feelings brotha

    Smacking myself in the face for you.
    Good work.
    Thank you

    Can I have another slice of humble pie please.[/QUOTE
    Yes you may...

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    I personally dont think those pics are 15 weeks apart, but well done on the transformation

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I personally dont think those pics are 15 weeks apart, but well done on the transformation
    No offence, but I have to agree with Marcus on that... but like I've said before, good job no matter how long it took you.

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    OK, YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERTSAND WHAT I'M SAYING! lol
    I've been having several of you say this, so let me restate what I said before. In the little blurb above the pics I clearly stated how they were posted. The FIRST 3 pics are from FEBURARY, the SECOND 3 pics are from MARCH, and the last 3 pics are FROM APRIL (not shouting here, just wanna make sure you don't miss this again) The final 2 AFTER pics are from NOW (a couple weeks ago actually)

    I TOTALLY GET WHY NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE 15 WEEKS FROM THE FIRST 3 OF ME FROM FEBURARY TO THE FINAL 2 AFTER PICS! I ABSOLUTELY GET THAT, BUT I'M NOT CLAIMING THAT. IT'S 15 WEEKS FROM THE 3 APRIL PICS TO THE 2 AFTER PICS.

    I hope this clears it all up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel. View Post
    OK, YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERTSAND WHAT I'M SAYING! lol
    I've been having several of you say this, so let me restate what I said before. In the little blurb above the pics I clearly stated how they were posted. The FIRST 3 pics are from FEBURARY, the SECOND 3 pics are from MARCH, and the last 3 pics are FROM APRIL (not shouting here, just wanna make sure you don't miss this again) The final 2 AFTER pics are from NOW (a couple weeks ago actually)

    I TOTALLY GET WHY NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE 15 WEEKS FROM THE FIRST 3 OF ME FROM FEBURARY TO THE FINAL 2 AFTER PICS! I ABSOLUTELY GET THAT, BUT I'M NOT CLAIMING THAT. IT'S 15 WEEKS FROM THE 3 APRIL PICS TO THE 2 AFTER PICS.

    I hope this clears it all up
    You posted a thread on the 4/18/10 asking what bf you was because you just took your bf - http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=427514 your first pictures,

    Then you started this thread on 7/22/10 showing your new avatar, the time difference is 14 weeks, which is completely different what yoru claiming.

    Its plain to see that it isnt weeks we are talking about here, you should really state the truth because like ive said you have made great gains and built a good solid base but dont try and pull the wool over peoples eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    You posted a thread on the 4/18/10 asking what bf you was because you just took your bf - http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=427514 your first pictures,
    THESE ARE THE EXACT SAME PICS THAT I'M TELLING YOU GUYS ARE THE APRIL PICS!!! The above date I posted that thread, 04/18/10 is April 18th, 2010, what is so hard to understand here??? Those pics are from a thread I made in April, I claimed those SAME pics to be my APRIL PICS in my new thread. I'm totally astonished why you don't get this guys.

    Then you started this thread on 7/22/10 showing your new avatar, the time difference is 14 weeks, which is completely different what yoru claiming.
    NO!!! I'M CLAIMING 15 WEEKS FROM THOSE PICS I POSTED ON 04/18/10 AND MY CURRENT AFTER PICS!!! THOSE PICS IN THE 04/18/10 THREAD ARE THE EXACT SAME PICS AS THE ONES I POSTED AS MY APRIL PICS IN MY CURRENT THREAD! 04/18/10 = APRIL! Okay, so it's 14 weeks, not exactly what I would rationally refer to as "completely different"

    Its plain to see that it isnt weeks we are talking about here, IT IS 15 WEEKS FROM THE 04/18/10 PICS TO MY CURRENT AFTER/AVY PICS!!! I you should really state the truth because like ive said you have made great gains and built a good solid base but dont try and pull the wool over peoples eyes.
    Thanks for the compliment, but GOD DAMN! WHY DOES NOBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING! It's VERY simple.

    You said it yourself, I posted those pics 04/18/10, do you NOT REALIZE those are also the exact same pics I'm claiming as my April pics!?! 04/18/10 = April....

    Sorry guys, but SHEESH
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    It's clear.... but the extra 3 weeks aren't gonna matter your transformation looks like 6 to 8 month minimum.... some guys can't do that in a year but you're saying you did it in 15 weeks.... Either way regardless how long it took you, good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    It's clear.... but the extra 3 weeks aren't gonna matter It's not an extra 3 weeks from the 3 April pics, it's 15 weeks from the april pics! your transformation looks like 6 to 8 month minimum.... some guys can't do that in a year but you're saying you did it in 15 weeks....
    I'm saying 15 weeks from the APRIL pics to the afters, yes
    Either way regardless how long it took you, good job.
    Thanks for the compliments anyways, it's just TOTALLY FRUSTRATING when I post ALL of the pics I have throughout the whole 5 month period, AND I reveal my face as you guys wanted, but people still don't believe me GRRRRR

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    Arch, you don't understand.... We understand your timeline. All we are trying to say is regardless of 15 weeks or not.... we are saying it is not possible to get those results in 20 weeks or even 25 weeks let alone 15 weeks. I believe those pictures are more like a year or 2 apart and you are claiming it as 15 weeks.... just My opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertuzzi View Post
    Arch, you don't understand.... We understand your timeline. All we are trying to say is regardless of 15 weeks or not.... we are saying it is not possible to get those results in 20 weeks or even 25 weeks let alone 15 weeks. I believe those pictures are more like a year or 2 apart and you are claiming it as 15 weeks.... just My opinion.
    Oh man, I feel SO defeated right now. I was just so excited to share this with everyone, and I've mostly received negative comments relating to the untruthfulness of my transformation. What sucks even more, is that most of these comments have come from the people that I and everyone else respect the most on this board.
    Your right, it is a crazy transformation. Hell, I didn't even realize how different I looked until I looked at all these pics side by side, as I see myself everyday. Well, thanks for all your kind words anyways, I don't know what else I could do to prove it. I'm actually posting 2 back shots of myself that I took TODAY after my workout. This is the 16 week mark if anyone cares or believes me

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