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  1. #1
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    Your gonna make me do math now I see.

    Im gonna get prescriptive here and keep things simple.
    Vets Please Check my advice - I am no Pro!

    Weeks 1 - 2: 200 Test E Mon / Thurs
    Weeks 3 - 10: 200 Test E and 250ius HCG Mon / Thurs
    Weeks 11 - 12: 250ius HCG Mon / Thurs
    Week 13 (PCT): ED 40 Nolva / Clomid 50 280 350
    Week 14 - 16 (PCT): ED 20 Nolva / Clomid 25 840 525

    Totals:
    4g Test E
    5000ius HCG
    42 (20mg) tabs of Nolva
    35 (25mg) tabs of Clomid

    I added the Clomid if you can get it, I would suggest you do.

    As for diet post your plan in the diet section. Think about your macros etc. 5000 cal is probably too much for you I can bulk under 4000 cals easy.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyB View Post
    Your gonna make me do math now I see.

    Im gonna get prescriptive here and keep things simple.
    Vets Please Check my advice - I am no Pro!

    Weeks 1 - 2: 200 Test E Mon / Thurs
    Weeks 3 - 10: 200 Test E and 250ius HCG Mon / Thurs
    Weeks 11 - 12: 250ius HCG Mon / Thurs
    Week 13 (PCT): ED 40 Nolva / Clomid 50 280 350
    Week 14 - 16 (PCT): ED 20 Nolva / Clomid 25 840 525

    Totals:
    4g Test E
    5000ius HCG
    42 (20mg) tabs of Nolva
    35 (25mg) tabs of Clomid

    I added the Clomid if you can get it, I would suggest you do.

    As for diet post your plan in the diet section. Think about your macros etc. 5000 cal is probably too much for you I can bulk under 4000 cals easy.

    Cheers
    Perfect thanks alot for this. I am just going to run with nolva and HCG since I cant get my hands on clomid. And everyone im checking with (including a top pro bodybuilder) is telling me nolva has the same effect as clomid just stronger. I wont be counting calories but I will eat like a horse so I gain as much as possible then cut...possible with a low dose of winstrol and/or ephedrine.

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