are squats + deadlifts doing this???

[Bigdog99]

if you are making great gains now...why do you want juice? Keep going naturally. When you have reached your genetic limit...then start thinking about gear.

BTW--top 3 overall lifts in order for max overall strength and development are (IMO)

1--Squats
2--Deadlifts
3---Bench

Other may disagree in the order--- but in general if you do these along with other smaller movements.....you will be just fine.

[gbrice75]

if you are making great gains now...why do you want juice? Keep going naturally. When you have reached your genetic limit...then start thinking about gear.

BTW--top 3 overall lifts in order for max overall strength and development are (IMO)

1--Squats
2--Deadlifts
3---Bench

Other may disagree in the order--- but in general if you do these along with other smaller movements.....you will be just fine.

I agree with this. I'd also include weighted dips and pullups/chinups though, just to get a very well rounded workout.