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    I am interested in Anavar for the same reason. Deca and EQ also boost collagen synthesis, but the potential for side effects are much greater than with Anavar. I have also heard that regular test can have positive effects too. Collagen synthesis is progesterone and estrogen modulated, so you either need something that spurs on those, or something that aromatizes to estrogen.

    HGH may help, on the other hand it may make the condition worse. I've read a fair amount about HGH, and there are many reports about joint pain and such issues. Possibly it's a dosage thing, but I personally wouldn't take the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post

    HGH may help, on the other hand it may make the condition worse. I've read a fair amount about HGH, and there are many reports about joint pain and such issues. Possibly it's a dosage thing, but I personally wouldn't take the chance.
    Joint pain with HGH is entirely dosage related. GH increases synovial fluid in joints (but it does this in a dose-related linear manner). The pain can happen if you take too much and the joints swell and put pressure on the nerve that runs through them (like Carpal Tunnel Syndrome). You just have to start low and work your way up as high as you can go before the side effects occur.
    Either way, GH is by far a better option than Anavar or Deca, which must be cycled and will cause a lot of side effects of their own. They will both require testosterone to maintain libido, and Var will wreck your lipids.
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    Then the increased synovial fluid is causing nerve impingment? Great, how long does that take to go away? I had a bit of that from my lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) and it shot pain down my arm and caused pins and needles in my little and ring finger. On and off for about a month during my five month battle with it. Nothing really made it go away either. Ice, heat, ipuprofen, etc. nothing worked. Eventually at the end of month four I started ultrasound and in about a month it has nearly completely gone. I'd say I'm now 95% back to normal.

    Deca is a lot more prone to side effects than Anavar. The two are non DHT based and linked to the stimulation of collagen synthesis, but beyond that they are very different. Many on this site have commented that they experienced no loss of libido from Anavar whatsoever. I would probably have some tribulus and avena sativa on hand just to be safe, both legal and easily obtained.

    As far as cholesterol that is a possible side effect, but if your cholesterol is already normal you have some room for it to get out of whack on a cycle and then go back to normal afterward. That's just another reason to keep your diet clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    Then the increased synovial fluid is causing nerve impingment? Great, how long does that take to go away? I had a bit of that from my lateral epicondylitis (tennis elbow) and it shot pain down my arm and caused pins and needles in my little and ring finger. On and off for about a month during my five month battle with it. Nothing really made it go away either. Ice, heat, ipuprofen, etc. nothing worked. Eventually at the end of month four I started ultrasound and in about a month it has nearly completely gone. I'd say I'm now 95% back to normal.

    Deca is a lot more prone to side effects than Anavar. The two are non DHT based and linked to the stimulation of collagen synthesis, but beyond that they are very different. Many on this site have commented that they experienced no loss of libido from Anavar whatsoever. I would probably have some tribulus and avena sativa on hand just to be safe, both legal and easily obtained.

    As far as cholesterol that is a possible side effect, but if your cholesterol is already normal you have some room for it to get out of whack on a cycle and then go back to normal afterward. That's just another reason to keep your diet clean.
    Where did you read that Var isn't DHT based? It most certainly is.
    And a poor lipid profile isn't a "possible side effect", it is a certainty. Anavar is the worst AAS for lipids, no contest. Anavar is not a long-term treatment option because it will set anyone up for heart problems if taken for long enough without lengthy breaks to rebalance lipids.

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