Knowledge needed for my 1st cycle of TEST

[G4R]

I would say about 95% of the people who come on here want to use steroids to help aid in bodybuilding. If we assume the other 5% are people who are not interested in bodybuilding, but want to use them for other reasons such as some sport, then that is fine. What we are saying is that if they are wanting to use them for bodybuilding or sports, there could be other ways for them to acheive their goals without the use of any steroids. We want to look at all other possibilities BEFORE we hand out steroid advice. If we see that a change in diet, or training can help, then we advise that.

I didnt ask you to leave, or threaten to ban you. I said if you dont like the way we do things here, you can leave on your own. But dont complain about the way we do things here if you dont like them, yet continue to stay here.

[baseline_9]

This thread is going nowhere guys

Its just gettin stupid

Someone needs to lock it down

[Matt]

Can you outline why you think its a bad idea for somebody to take steroids who doesn't work out?

Nothing will happen if he continues to not workout or eat. He won't explode or die or develop overnight baldness. Again nothing will happen.

The only issue I can see that would cause concern would be connective tissue problems if he does workout and I clearly outlined that in my post.

Do you get banned here for telling the truth?

You are wrong, over time he may develop baldness, gyno, testicular shrinkage and suffer from elevated blood pressure....

[Zygote]

You are wrong, over time he may develop baldness, gyno, testicular shrinkage and suffer from elevated blood pressure....

You misunderstood the post. It was referring to a single cycle which included PCT. Those sides are unlikely to occur in such a short period of time, unlikely to be serious and are likely to be reversable and could be dealt with effectively by cessation / nolva / clomid if they did occur.

[G4R]

You misunderstood the post. It was referring to a single cycle which included PCT. Those sides are unlikely to occur in such a short period of time, unlikely to be serious and are likely to be reversable and could be dealt with effectively by cessation / nolva / clomid if they did occur.

While baldness may not be affected termendously in a short period of time, how can you say that gyno, testicular atrophy and elevated blood pressure is unlikely to happen during a single cycle? All three of them can (and a lot of times do) happen during every cycle.

[G4R]

By the way, you and Parabolic seem to have a lot in common....

[Parabolic]

By the way, you and Parabolic seem to have a lot in common....

*Sigh*

Stop raging at me G4R i've already agreed with you. (In op's case here seems he does lack dedication and well roids don't fix that i've not said otherwise) just said if you use with proper diet / training you'll gain faster than natty.

[Zygote]

While baldness may not be affected termendously in a short period of time, how can you say that gyno, testicular atrophy and elevated blood pressure is unlikely to happen during a single cycle? All three of them can (and a lot of times do) happen during every cycle.

They don't usually occur in normal men over a normal cycle period (10-12 weeks) on a common dosage 250-500mg pw to an extent that requires you to stop your cycle. If they do occur you have the option to stop the cycle (why I ran prop my first cycle), lower your dosage or continue and run your PCT earlier.

As for elevated blood pressure, it shouldn't be a problem over a 12 week period and will return to normal after cessation of cycle. Long as you had healthy BP in the first place of course.

[Big]

Zygote, although the staff here has told you that we do not advocate steroids in cases such as this, you choose to turn this thread into a debate, and state that you are not breaking any rules. We reiterated why the OP should not be considering steroids at this time, yet you persist in debating. Imagine you went to a nice restaurant wearing a t shirt, and the staff told you that a dinner jacket was required. You could stand there debating how you can eat comfortably in a t shirt, or you could point our how there isn't a big sign saying you have to wear a jacket, or you could respect the staff and abide by what you are told or eat elsewhere. We, as a site, do not advocate steroids for cases such as this, as we feel that is not in order. We feel your advice is unsound and we disagree with you.

[Zygote]

Zygote, although the staff here has told you that we do not advocate steroids in cases such as this, you choose to turn this thread into a debate, and state that you are not breaking any rules. We reiterated why the OP should not be considering steroids at this time, yet you persist in debating. Imagine you went to a nice restaurant wearing a t shirt, and the staff told you that a dinner jacket was required. You could stand there debating how you can eat comfortably in a t shirt, or you could point our how there isn't a big sign saying you have to wear a jacket, or you could respect the staff and abide by what you are told or eat elsewhere. We, as a site, do not advocate steroids for cases such as this, as we feel that is not in order. We feel your advice is unsound and we disagree with you.

I did very early after my first post state that I wouldn't break the rules. After that my posts were clearly in response to questions asked by other members, not the OP. I was responding to those. Maybe this thread should be locked?

As for unsound and your disagreement thats fine, you are entitled to disagree. Regardless I'm tired of this thread, too political for me, I'm out.

[badboybassmaster]

Thanks for the advice everyone ! Sorry to start a war ! One thing's for sure , I have to eat like i'm 185 if i wanna be 185 ! It's simple math ! So i'll take it 1 step at a time !

[gypsy]

Just get your diet right man, I'm 6'1 and was the same weight as you a couple years back. I thought I was eating heaps and just one of those hard gainers, but similar eating cereal and shit for dinner not really training. a couple years later im pushing up near 200lbs.

sounds like a long time but if you throw regular training and a correct diet in to your life you will be suprised how much you can stack on and the time just flies past. at your size you could stack on quite a bit of weight in 12 months easy. steroids are going to do nothing for you at this point.

[lovbyts]

Thanks for the advice everyone ! Sorry to start a war ! One thing's for sure , I have to eat like i'm 185 if i wanna be 185 ! It's simple math ! So i'll take it 1 step at a time !

Perfect. Yes it can be overwhelming and confusing especially when you have a bunch of newbies all trying to show their knowledge and they get upset when their ego is bruised.

Listen to the vets. Personally I dont even bother with any of the other BB sights because this one is more health conscious and concerned about long term goals and health. As frequently said, it's a lifestyle, not a fad.

Take it one step at a time and it's much easier.