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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Yes. 35lbs is quit a goal, though achievable, this is a clear indication you started AAS when you were nowhere near your NGP.
    Absolutely. I did not do much heavy lifting (except lifting humans) prior to my AAS cycle. I needed to stay in my weight class and it really didnt help me in my sport to have bigger muscles. I did high intensity work (crossfit) with kettlebells, barbells, pull ups etc and MMA to get ready for fights.

    If I wanted to become as big as possible, I should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. But as I mentioned that is not my goal.

    When does the testo start to slow down? Maybe when I start PCT 14 weeks after last pin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameness View Post
    Absolutely. I did not do much heavy lifting (except lifting humans) prior to my AAS cycle. I needed to stay in my weight class and it really didnt help me in my sport to have bigger muscles. I did high intensity work (crossfit) with kettlebells, barbells, pull ups etc and MMA to get ready for fights.

    If I wanted to become as big as possible, I should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. But as I mentioned that is not my goal.

    When does the testo start to slow down? Maybe when I start PCT 14 weeks after last pin?
    im thinking you ment 14 days after last pin,thats when you start pct...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    im thinking you ment 14 days after last pin,thats when you start pct...
    yes of course, misstype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameness View Post
    Absolutely. I did not do much heavy lifting (except lifting humans) prior to my AAS cycle. I needed to stay in my weight class and it really didnt help me in my sport to have bigger muscles. I did high intensity work (crossfit) with kettlebells, barbells, pull ups etc and MMA to get ready for fights.

    If I wanted to become as big as possible, I should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. But as I mentioned that is not my goal.

    When does the testo start to slow down? Maybe when I start PCT 14 weeks after last pin?

    Regardless, you should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. I am in the same boat, have done martial arts for 16 years and MMA for 6+ years but I have lifted for 10 years, focusing soley on strength speed and power before considering AAS.

    Jumping into AAS, especially for strength purposes, can certainly lead to injury seeing as your ligaments tendons and joints are not ready for that type of increased weight load.

    Anyhow, I will not preach anymore. You say you want to stay in the same weight class, and also gain 35lbs.. so what exactly are your goals here pertaining to training and MMA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leatherface7 View Post
    Regardless, you should have been lifting natural for a couple more years before starting AAS. I am in the same boat, have done martial arts for 16 years and MMA for 6+ years but I have lifted for 10 years, focusing soley on strength speed and power before considering AAS.

    Jumping into AAS, especially for strength purposes, can certainly lead to injury seeing as your ligaments tendons and joints are not ready for that type of increased weight load.

    Anyhow, I will not preach anymore. You say you want to stay in the same weight class, and also gain 35lbs.. so what exactly are your goals here pertaining to training and MMA?
    Yes I agree that I should have been lifting natural for more years before AAS.
    I try to increase the weight gradually so I wont injure my ligaments etc...in some lifts I could easily double up the weight but I dont because I know my limit when it comes to my joints/tendons and so on.

    My goal is to put on as much muscle as possible and bulk up to 220 pounds (at start of cycle I was 180 and today I am 200 pounds). And after that I will start cutting, I want to walk around 195 pounds and fight at 180...staying as big as possible. I discussed this plan earlier this year when I was training in Brazil and the pro fighters there thought it sounded good and many of them had done the same in the past.

    Another question;

    I am going to run HCG before I start the Nolva as well and want to know if this sounds good.
    Week 7-11 (total 5 wks) 1000iu HCG/wk then I start the Nolva exactly 14 days after last pin of testo. And a stupid question along with it, can I shoot the HCG and the testo at the same time, or should I switch needles/pump and do 2 separate shots?
    Last edited by Gameness; 08-20-2010 at 11:34 AM.

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