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    Good read! I wish you the best of luck Mav6 and hope your researched decision pays off. Some great advice off the guys on here and as said above by HP they are proven by personal experience.
    Take the great advice and add it to what you know and have understood about Oxandrolone and again I wish you all the best!!!

    P.S Keep the bitch if shes paying the rent!!!lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by meat&2veg View Post

    P.S Keep the bitch if shes paying the rent!!!lol
    She's not too bad of a cook either. I get home from work after she's already left for work, I open the fridge, and there's always something good to eat.


    Concerning PCT, would taking HCG during the cycle be a wise choice to prevent shutdown?

    I'm a little worried about using Nolva and Clomid because I've read they can cause ocular toxicity which can lead to cataracts. I unfortunately have an inoperable cataract due to high doses of cortisone. So, I was considering using Toremifene as an alternative SERM. Does anyone have an opinion on Toremifene or any experience with it? There's very little discussion about Toremifene, it seems like Nolva and Clomid are much more popular.

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    Ugh... Went to the ortho yesterday, he's saying my foot and tibia still have unhealed fractures. What the hell is wrong with me that in 10 weeks I could have fractures that aren't healed?

    Would it be possible/advisable/safe to run HGH with Anavar? Or perhaps really ambitious, HGH/Var/Deca? I'm just fed up and at the end of my rope with these injuries.

    I would assume HCG would be very important to run with Deca since that can shut you down with the first dose?

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    What was his recommendation for getting the fractures to heal? 10 weeks is rather excessive IMO. A typical fracture will heal in 4-6 weeks. If it's a stress fracture and you are continuing to load the area that is the problem. If it's a destabilized fracture then the doctor should advise pinning it in place to get it to mend properly. I'm curious to see what his take on your condition was.

    Truthfully I don't think I'd advise taking HGH at 26. Your natural levels at that age are still pretty good. HGH is for people over 40 IMO, unless you have a natural deficiency.

    I'd advise against Deca as well. It has a much higher chance of side effects than Anavar, and from a healing standpoint the two are about equal. You are only going to get so much help from either. Trying to effectively supercharge the process by taking both won't work the way you're thinking it will. Plus, when coming off you may get a slowdown in collagen synthesis due to natural progesterone rebound.

    Injuries can be very frustrating. It took 5 months for my tennis elbow to resolve, and shortly after it did I wound up with tendonitis in my wrist, which I'm still getting over. You have to dedicate yourself to getting better, doing what you can do until you are 100% again, modifying your workouts as needed, and try to stay positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    What was his recommendation for getting the fractures to heal? 10 weeks is rather excessive IMO. A typical fracture will heal in 4-6 weeks. If it's a stress fracture and you are continuing to load the area that is the problem. If it's a destabilized fracture then the doctor should advise pinning it in place to get it to mend properly. I'm curious to see what his take on your condition was.

    Truthfully I don't think I'd advise taking HGH at 26. Your natural levels at that age are still pretty good. HGH is for people over 40 IMO, unless you have a natural deficiency.

    I'd advise against Deca as well. It has a much higher chance of side effects than Anavar, and from a healing standpoint the two are about equal. You are only going to get so much help from either. Trying to effectively supercharge the process by taking both won't work the way you're thinking it will. Plus, when coming off you may get a slowdown in collagen synthesis due to natural progesterone rebound.

    Injuries can be very frustrating. It took 5 months for my tennis elbow to resolve, and shortly after it did I wound up with tendonitis in my wrist, which I'm still getting over. You have to dedicate yourself to getting better, doing what you can do until you are 100% again, modifying your workouts as needed, and try to stay positive.
    His recommendation was to wait 3 more weeks and see how it's doing. He said my bloodwork all came back ok. My cortisol levels are elevated, but that's to be expected with an injury, my calcium, vit D, were all within normal ranges. Thyroid function was fine.

    He said he's actually never seen a 26 year old male with such slow healing. Especially since the first 6 weeks I had been in a cast and on crutches.

    I already tried GHRP and it doesn't seem like it did anything, that's the only reason I was considering HGH, but I suppose that's not going to be much use in this case either. And I understand the reason not to stack Deca and Anavar.

    I totally agree with you on frustrating injuries, and I even expected this thing to hurt for months especially considering all the ligament tears. But I'm really disappointed that the fracture isn't even closed yet.

    I cannot, for the life of me, think of a reason why this bone isn't healing though. I don't know how I could stay off it more unless I started hanging upside down on my pullup bar.

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    I would do some research on my own and see if his quoted healing time is typical or atypical. If its atypical I'd see if there were any reasons that might be the case. Are you seeing a Specialist or a GP? If its a GP might be time to get a referral for a Specialist, look for a Sports Medicine guy.

    Some of us may have certain body parts that heal slower than others. When it comes to regular injuries I'm slightly super human. My blood clots twice as fast as the average person (I've had that verified when testing prior to a surgery I had years back). I recovered from a broken Tibia in three weeks when I was younger. They took an xray before putting me in a walking cast and found the fracture healed. It was supposed to be 4-6 weeks healing time. Lacerations, fractures, even sprains all seem to heal very fast.

    But I never suspected that a tendon would take so long to heal, and be so debilitating. They just don't heal on me like everything else seems to. Maybe your bones are the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    I would do some research on my own and see if his quoted healing time is typical or atypical. If its atypical I'd see if there were any reasons that might be the case. Are you seeing a Specialist or a GP? If its a GP might be time to get a referral for a Specialist, look for a Sports Medicine guy.

    Some of us may have certain body parts that heal slower than others. When it comes to regular injuries I'm slightly super human. My blood clots twice as fast as the average person (I've had that verified when testing prior to a surgery I had years back). I recovered from a broken Tibia in three weeks when I was younger. They took an xray before putting me in a walking cast and found the fracture healed. It was supposed to be 4-6 weeks healing time. Lacerations, fractures, even sprains all seem to heal very fast.

    But I never suspected that a tendon would take so long to heal, and be so debilitating. They just don't heal on me like everything else seems to. Maybe your bones are the same way.
    bones have blood supply, tendons and ligaments do not and are always the worst on healing. Ive dealt with lots of people with foot fractures that take a loooooong time to heal. double edge sword- doc says don't put weight on it, but weight bearing increases bone formation and blood supply, feet are naturally poor at circulation thats why feet swell, show edema first, heal slow and a diabetics nightmare. Tibia on the hand... hmm probably the same leg as the foot right?

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