Almost fully recovered already!? PCT

[awms]

You shouldt be using Letro during PCT, or another AI. Why lower estrogen when endogenous testosterone is low.

Tongkat Ali, Fenugreek, Tribulas will do f*ck all for testosterone output, but will increase labido (hence you feeling fine).

Thats a bullshit PCT by the way.

No HCG, No SERMs and Letro at 2.5mg/ED.

I didnt have choice I had clomid and nolva but the person I got it from took my money promised he would have it for me and basicaly stole my money...he was the same guy I got my test and letro from so I didnt think he would have taken my money but you live you learn....so that was my only choice.

It seems to be working pretty well seeing as I woke up this morning and my balls are 100% back to normal? and who says you cant use letro for pct? its not ideal but people have done it with great success. It lowers estrogen and in return the body will want to make more test. Again its not ideal but from what I read it will have a similar effect to a-dex....heck I was even reading studeis were they gave a low dose of letro to men with loe test levels and letro brought there test levels back to normal and in some cases much higher than normal.

[Swifto]

I didnt have choice I had clomid and nolva but the person I got it from took my money promised he would have it for me and basicaly stole my money...he was the same guy I got my test and letro from so I didnt think he would have taken my money but you live you learn....so that was my only choice.

It seems to be working pretty well seeing as I woke up this morning and my balls are 100% back to normal? and who says you cant use letro for pct? its not ideal but people have done it with great success. It lowers estrogen and in return the body will want to make more test. Again its not ideal but from what I read it will have a similar effect to a-dex....heck I was even reading studeis were they gave a low dose of letro to men with loe test levels and letro brought there test levels back to normal and in some cases much higher than normal.

You dont know what your doing.

Letro at 2.5mg/ED will crush estrogen. It will cause cholesterol problems, joint and CNS problems, it will crush labido aswell. I highly doubt your on 2.5mg/ED, otherwise you'de be getting these symptoms.

I've already addressed using an AI during PCT, but I'll do it one more time for you. Why the heck would ANYONE want to use an AI during PCT if estrogen is already very low, because endogenous testosterone is VERY low? Using something like Aromasin or even Arimidex can cause the sides Letro does purely for this reason. Unless your using HCG during PCT (which your not)

SERMs are for PCT, AI's/HCG on cycle.

Your PCT is horrible and so is your cycle planning. Why didnt you have ALL your cycle meds before cycling?

What about a possible estrogen rebound from the use of Letro is endo. T does get increased? Thought of that?

If anyone reads this and think this cycle is acceptable, think again.

[awms]

You dont know what your doing.

Letro at 2.5mg/ED will crush estrogen. It will cause cholesterol problems, joint and CNS problems, it will crush labido aswell. I highly doubt your on 2.5mg/ED, otherwise you'de be getting these symptoms.

I've already addressed using an AI during PCT, but I'll do it one more time for you. Why the heck would ANYONE want to use an AI during PCT if estrogen is already very low, because endogenous testosterone is VERY low? Using something like Aromasin or even Arimidex can cause the sides Letro does purely for this reason. Unless your using HCG during PCT (which your not)

SERMs are for PCT, AI's/HCG on cycle.

Your PCT is horrible and so is your cycle planning. Why didnt you have ALL your cycle meds before cycling?

What about a possible estrogen rebound from the use of Letro is endo. T does get increased? Thought of that?

If anyone reads this and think this cycle is acceptable, think again.

First of all although Im sure you are extremely knowledgeable you are wrong that Letro can not be used for pct...is it ideal? no its not but yes it can be done and that compared to using nothing is the better of the two.

Second the person I got my gear from took my money, gave me my test and letro and told me "il have you clomid and nolva in a couple week" I trusted him because I have known him for a while and guess what he ****ed me? so was it smart to start with out my pct on hand no....but i really didnt think I would get screwed over but hey you live you learn.

[Swifto]

First of all although Im sure you are extremely knowledgeable you are wrong that Letro can not be used for pct...is it ideal? no its not but yes it can be done and that compared to using nothing is the better of the two.

Second the person I got my gear from took my money, gave me my test and letro and told me "il have you clomid and nolva in a couple week" I trusted him because I have known him for a while and guess what he ****ed me? so was it smart to start with out my pct on hand no....but i really didnt think I would get screwed over but hey you live you learn.

Yeah, I guess I do know what I'm talking about in regards to Endocrinology and PCT. Got a few articles and a sticky on it.

Your confusing the fact Letro can increase endogenous testosterone and it being acceptable for PCT. Most quote, this study, on Letro quadrupling testosterone on "one pill a week (2.5mg)". Ok... It raised endo. T a fair bit, but these guys are obese and have ALOT of aromotase which will inturn cause negative feedback at the hypothalamus suppressing the axis.

So they have ALOT of estrogen causing a suppressing effect. You dont AT ALL during PCT. You have very LOW estrogen, so why use a compound that suppresses 98% of circulating estrogen? You still havent answered that.

The truth is (if your logical and have a basic understanding of the HPTA), Letro is a bullshit idea for PCT. But a decent idea at raising endogenous testosterone in a normal state, or perhaps inbetween cycles for a kick.

Again, you dont know what your talking about. And... Please dont tell me I'm wrong about using Letro for PCT, when you havent the fogiest about it or how it raises test etc...

I've already touched on the sides, lipids, joint, CNS, labido, lethargy. Why the f*ck do you want those sides, or MORE sides during PCT. PCT is often a time of decreased energy, low labido, so you want to lower labido more and cause more lethargy.

Tell me how Letro increases endogenous testosterone?

[BOBfromfightclub]

Yeah, I guess I do know what I'm talking about in regards to Endocrinology and PCT. Got a few articles and a sticky on it.

Your confusing the fact Letro can increase endogenous testosterone and it being acceptable for PCT. Most quote, this study, on Letro quadrupling testosterone on "one pill a week (2.5mg)". Ok... It raised endo. T a fair bit, but these guys are obese and have ALOT of aromotase which will inturn cause negative feedback at the hypothalamus suppressing the axis.

So they have ALOT of estrogen causing a suppressing effect. You dont AT ALL during PCT. You have very LOW estrogen, so why use a compound that suppresses 98% of circulating estrogen? You still havent answered that.

The truth is (if your logical and have a basic understanding of the HPTA), Letro is a bullshit idea for PCT. But a decent idea at raising endogenous testosterone in a normal state, or perhaps inbetween cycles for a kick.

Again, you dont know what your talking about. And... Please dont tell me I'm wrong about using Letro for PCT, when you havent the fogiest about it or how it raises test etc...

I've already touched on the sides, lipids, joint, CNS, labido, lethargy. Why the f*ck do you want those sides, or MORE sides during PCT. PCT is often a time of decreased energy, low labido, so you want to lower labido more and cause more lethargy.

Tell me how Letro increases endogenous testosterone?

what would your recomended PCT be?

What does letro do to joints?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

what would your recomended PCT be?

What does letro do to joints?

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