Newbie First Post "HRT/TRT" Questions !

[Vettester]

ask that biotest company if you can pay when your test levels reach 1,000 like their claming....

been reading posts for over 4 years here and own research and have heard of compounds to boost natty test SLIGHTLY but never this claim

Chopper, read what jpkman has posted real carefully. The stuff you're looking at isn't going to work as a TRT substitute. If those supplements really do raise test levels to 1,000+ don't you think most of us would already be doing it already? If your test levels are fine, then maybe adding some of those products will help give some minor enhancement. If you have confirmed hypogonadism then what you really need is TRT. Plus, you don't need a doc threatening to drop your program if you get gyno!!! ... What you need is a doc to administer and monitor a proper protocol that will keep your body balanced, which includes making sure you never come close to ever seeing gyno in the first place.

As for your Avatar ... Scroll to the top of the page and click "User CP". Scroll down on the left hand side and click "Edit Avatar". You can upload a picture from there.

[chopper999]

Chopper, read what jpkman has posted real carefully. The stuff you're looking at isn't going to work as a TRT substitute. If those supplements really do raise test levels to 1,000+ don't you think most of us would already be doing it already? If your test levels are fine, then maybe adding some of those products will help give some minor enhancement. If you have confirmed hypogonadism then what you really need is TRT. Plus, you don't need a doc threatening to drop your program if you get gyno!!! ... What you need is a doc to administer and monitor a proper protocol that will keep your body balanced, which includes making sure you never come close to ever seeing gyno in the first place.

As for your Avatar ... Scroll to the top of the page and click "User CP". Scroll down on the left hand side and click "Edit Avatar". You can upload a picture from there.

G'day Vetteman08 - Thanks for all the helpful info and your concern - I would have thought the major reason people have not tried Biotest's products is not the fact if they work as cliamed BUT rather the price of staying on them full time - once they find out if they do indeed raise test to 1,000+ - I guess what they should say in their advertising is " These products will only work in raising test if you already have healthy levels - so are you saying they are outright liars and should be stopped for false advertising or is it has I said the only way to truly find out is to use them and see what happens or is it the case with hypogonadism that no matter what you chuck at your balls IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA WORK - they will never work again to produce high test levels.

Your right about my Doc - what a prick so now I have 6 months supply of TESTOGEL but I am scared to start using it cause really the first thing I gotta do is find another Doctor who will do as you say :

{ What you need is a doc to administer and monitor a proper protocol that will keep your body balanced, which includes making sure you never come close to ever seeing gyno in the first place } that sort of sounds like pretty hard to achieve if they start upping your dose of Test to a higher level.

Thanks for the avatar info - Cheers Chopper.

[Vettester]

The supplement companies are in place to make $$, plain and simple. Take most of your protein and pre-workout drinks ... They all have guys like Jay Cutler doing endorsements about how "you" will get ripped with this product. It's just sales and marketing! If you have a medical condition that requires TRT then the way to treat it is by taking TRT. Plus, aiming for 1,000 "T" score really doesn't make sense. Aim for what the body needs for being optimal. That might be 700 or 790, or some other number ... That's what a balanced HRT program is all about.

A properly administered program will also include estrogen supervision. This is real easy to overcome with just a little AI added throughout the regiment.

[chopper999]

The supplement companies are in place to make $$, plain and simple. Take most of your protein and pre-workout drinks ... They all have guys like Jay Cutler doing endorsements about how "you" will get ripped with this product. It's just sales and marketing! If you have a medical condition that requires TRT then the way to treat it is by taking TRT. Plus, aiming for 1,000 "T" score really doesn't make sense. Aim for what the body needs for being optimal. That might be 700 or 790, or some other number ... That's what a balanced HRT program is all about.

A properly administered program will also include estrogen supervision. This is real easy to overcome with just a little AI added throughout the regiment.

Vetteman08 - Your dead right about a properly administered program will also include estrogen supervision - my paky doctor was not having none of it infact when I began to explain to him GYNO in medical terms and the need for a AI he just gave me a look that said I was being a smart ass and that my TRT treatment would be stopped if gyno started to happen - bottom line NO AI to be handed out only TESTOGEL what a wanker. - Cheers Chopper

p.s. On the subject of supplements have you ever tried Ronny Colemans NO - EXPLODE pre workout drink I did and I was running around jacked up feeling like I just did a huge line of coke freaking toe tapping for hours on that shit lol

[zaggahamma]

Vetteman08 - Your dead right about a properly administered program will also include estrogen supervision - my paky doctor was not having none of it infact when I began to explain to him GYNO in medical terms and the need for a AI he just gave me a look that said I was being a smart ass and that my TRT treatment would be stopped if gyno started to happen - bottom line NO AI to be handed out only TESTOGEL what a wanker. - Cheers Chopper

p.s. On the subject of supplements have you ever tried Ronny Colemans NO - EXPLODE pre workout drink I did and I was running around jacked up feeling like I just did a huge line of coke freaking toe tapping for hours on that shit lol

if u responded that well to no explode then u got your money's worth