whats safer for a first cycle? ph or AAS?

[HawaiianPride.]

You are too young to cycle precursors to anabolics or anabolics themselves.

Read:http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

In the meantime, keep up with the nutrition and training as stated before.

We have plenty of people here willing to guide you in the right direction.

Good luck

hp

[bbh90]

You are too young to cycle precursors to anabolics or anabolics themselves.

Read:http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

In the meantime, keep up with the nutrition and training as stated before.

We have plenty of people here willing to guide you in the right direction.

Good luck

hp

thanks i have read about this before i actually have done a lot of research on this been researching ph's since i was 17

i believe they set an age of 21 for prohormones and im wondering why they say that? they are both so closely related i cant see why the ph would have a 4 year younger age recommendation is the reasoning for this because they generally wreak less havoc on the endocrine system?

and mother fukc alright im postponing for now because although i do believe i have reached very near my natural potential i do think that my front squat incline bench and shoulders slightly have some natural potential left that i can make some significant gains without any hormonal assistance

but on the other hand im not really a strong believer that 25 is this golden age to start either on all honesty i think 21 is a more appropriate age to start and for the most part i think that how well you run your cycle makes the biggest difference in recovery as well as being reasonable in the amount of cycles you do in a lifetime unless were talking about a 16 year old or something but generally i think the fewest cycles to get to your goal is best and for most i dont see how more than 1 or 2 cycles would be necessary if you have a really good foundation

[HawaiianPride.]

thanks i have read about this before i actually have done a lot of research on this been researching ph's since i was 17

i believe they set an age of 21 for prohormones and im wondering why they say that? To sell their products. I use to rep for ON so I know how they like to push their toxic products to young kids to make money. they are both so closely related i cant see why the ph would have a 4 year younger age recommendation is the reasoning for this because they generally wreak less havoc on the endocrine system? Pro-hormones are Steroids. This is why it's advised to hold off on anything that will tamper with your HPTA/Test at such a young age.

and mother fukc alright im postponing for now because although i do believe i have reached very near my natural potential Your organisms in your body haven't fully matured. Sure you can lift heavy or whatever, but that doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to your vital organs inside of your still premature growing body. i do think that my front squat incline bench and shoulders slightly have some natural potential left that i can make some significant gains without any hormonal assistance <---That's good.

but on the other hand im not really a strong believer that 25 is this golden age to start either on all honesty i think 21 is a more appropriate age to start and for the most part i think that how well you run your cycle makes the biggest difference in recovery as well as being reasonable in the amount of cycles you do in a lifetime unless were talking about a 16 year old or something but generally i think the fewest cycles to get to your goal is best and for most i dont see how more than 1 or 2 cycles would be necessary if you have a really good foundation 16-21 your Test levels are still the same - SKY HIGH. Take advantage of this prime growth you have and all the testosterone your swimming in right now. You only life young once... hmm I feel like I'm repeating myself here yet again. Anyways, it's your choice, and it's my duty to inform you the risks you will be undergoing. All we ask here is for you to take into consideration of the much wiser that have been in your shoes already.

Bold.

[bbh90]

Bold.

that was a great response and as reading i was thinking by working my front squat incline and shoulders a little more i was thinking that may make it so i can develope other areas further as well because they wont be lacking
i still hold my ground saying 25 is a little far but ill agree 21 is a little young i think there are def ppl who are more than ready at 21 and ppl who are just barely ready at 25 but i will be waiting a while maybe ill get to my goal without it well see thanks man