Need advice on am cardio

[Twist]

I would actually recommend you eat carbs otherwise you are riding the border of lbm loss.

[FireGuy]

I would actually recommend you eat carbs otherwise you are riding the border of lbm loss.

I would never recommend eating carbs prior to cardio (and I am a pro carb guy). Lipolysis does not like to occur when there is insulin present.

[LBSOMEIRON]

I would never recommend eating carbs prior to cardio (and I am a pro carb guy). Lipolysis does not like to occur when there is insulin present.

On point....

There's this new fad going around. It's a 6 hour window of feeding coupled with an 18 hour fast. At first I was 100% against it, but two of my guys have proven that it's working. Let me see how far they get before I introduce the details.

For now, I'm sticking with the 6-7 meals a day.

As far ad your morning meal, you'll be surprised how quickly you adapt to no food preworkout if you decided to go that route. I have made some solid physique improvements with nothing but bcaas. It's the post wo meal that becomes crucial.

On non-spinning days, can you do cardio after training? That's optimal.

Whatever you decide, keep the intensity stoked and you'll be fine.

Don't buy Jack3d. I've pumped it up so much that it can't possibly live up to the expectations. Lol.

I'm kidding. Give it a go.

[gbrice75]

On point....

There's this new fad going around. It's a 6 hour window of feeding coupled with an 18 hour fast. At first I was 100% against it, but two of my guys have proven that it's working. Let me see how far they get before I introduce the details.

For now, I'm sticking with the 6-7 meals a day.

As far ad your morning meal, you'll be surprised how quickly you adapt to no food preworkout if you decided to go that route. I have made some solid physique improvements with nothing but bcaas. It's the post wo meal that becomes crucial.

On non-spinning days, can you do cardio after training? That's optimal.

Whatever you decide, keep the intensity stoked and you'll be fine.

Don't buy Jack3d. I've pumped it up so much that it can't possibly live up to the expectations. Lol.

I'm kidding. Give it a go.

LoL just what we need, another school of though!!!

Yea, I can and do - do cardio after my workout on non-spin days.

As for Jack3d, i'm all in! After talking about it yesterday, I researched and it sounds pretty promising - exactly what I need for a 5:30am workout. The only thing i'm worried about is that i'm currently running clen, and I don't want to 'OD' so to speak - clen already elevates heart rate, blood pressure, CNS stimulation - basically all the stuff Jack3d does. Do you think it's a bad idea to stack those?

[Twist]

I would never recommend eating carbs prior to cardio (and I am a pro carb guy). Lipolysis does not like to occur when there is insulin present.

True but after a long nights sleep he will have lowered his glycogen stores (especially with the cardio and the deficit) and with a low gi carb I doubt much of an insulin spike will occur. I mean we want an insulin spike to stop from burning through LBM, but its not supposed to be a candy bar... He would have to have elevated blood glucose levels for the body to release insulin and after a fast and a low gi food... Fire what do you think?

PS. Remember this is resistance training too guys, not just cardio.

[FireGuy]

True but after a long nights sleep he will have lowered his glycogen stores (especially with the cardio and the deficit) and with a low gi carb I doubt much of an insulin spike will occur. I mean we want an insulin spike to stop from burning through LBM, but its not supposed to be a candy bar... He would have to have elevated blood glucose levels for the body to release insulin and after a fast and a low gi food... Fire what do you think?

PS. Remember this is resistance training too guys, not just cardio.

I was speaking just to the cardio aspect of this. I think the loss of LBM when doing cardio is greatly exaggerated. I have stated before that if this were true I should be down to around 140lbs by now.

[Twist]

I was speaking just to the cardio aspect of this. I think the loss of LBM when doing cardio is greatly exaggerated. I have stated before that if this were true I should be down to around 140lbs by now.

I agree with you, I don't even think an hour of cardio (especially low - mid intensity) has very much of an impact on lbm at all. I have experimented with myself (because I drop weight very easily) and cardio drops mainly fat for me, whereas if I workout without a good 2 meals in me for 6 days I lose weight fast.

But GB is doing resistance training and cardio in the same day, after a fast, before the days activities, with a higher than normal calorie deficit.

[oker]

I agree with you, I don't even think an hour of cardio (especially low - mid intensity) has very much of an impact on lbm at all. I have experimented with myself (because I drop weight very easily) and cardio drops mainly fat for me, whereas if I workout without a good 2 meals in me for 6 days I lose weight fast.

But GB is doing resistance training and cardio in the same day, after a fast, before the days activities, with a higher than normal calorie deficit.

x 2 - if your diet is in check cardio won't affect LBM. I do cardio for an hour in the morn (empty stomach) and an hour in the evening and it's never affected my LBM. I do twice a day only when cutting and when I reach single digit I reduce to just morn sessions only. In short, doing cardio on an empty stomach will cut that fat fast! For me it’s about personal choice, I could do cardio a few times a week and watch the fat slowly drop off over a 3-4 month period, or I can do it twice a day and reach my objective of single digit in 4-6 weeks!

[Rizdizzle]

I was speaking just to the cardio aspect of this. I think the loss of LBM when doing cardio is greatly exaggerated. I have stated before that if this were true I should be down to around 140lbs by now.

I would agree with this. For the past 9 1/2 weeks ive been getting up at 5:20 and doing 30 mins of cardio 5/6 days a week on an empty stomach. After work i weight train for a minimum of an hour 5 days a week. I havent lost a pound in weight but have dropped from a size 48 waist size to a 34.