Thread has gotten pretty ugly. All I can say is that I have used Chinese gear with positive results. I'm not on anyones side. I'm not telling you that all chinese gear is the real deal and I sure am not telling you all US gear is the real deal.

I am, however, confident that the best way to go is pharm grade, but as mentioned....truly unaffordable.

For now, I'll continue to use both US and chinese gear. My hgh does come from a Chinese UG and all I can say is that I HAVE had good results. COuld they have been better with a US source? Possibly....could they have been worse? Sure.