I ran as high as 400mg of test around the beginning...along with a small dose of deca and then the arimidex...saw great gains....all though i was losing weight i was getting stronger the whole time...i guess the compounds were preserving and it seemed as if i was gaining muscle while losing fat but losing weight almost like a great cutting effort but havent done it since...you'll get more chimes in here a little later...not all trt'ers are done packing on some lean weight