here is a post from a guy named Mike Arnold from the Muscular Develpment Forums. This guy is the most knowledgeable poster on that forum and I would trust him completely
"I have used SD many times and it is my favorite oral AAS by far. It is more potent for actual muscle tissue gain per mg than either Dianabol or Anadrol. In the real world, it regulary gives superior gains to Dianabol, with an average LEAN gain of 12-20 lb's in just 30 days, which is NUTS!
The upper limit dose is typically 30 mg/day, although some have gone to 40 mg/day. However, this is not very common.
SD is the ONLY dry oral bulker. Thus makes it unique in that one will dry out similar to cutting orals, but it gives the mass building effects of the most potent orals.
Compared to Anadrol, it gives greater muscle tissues gains at 30 mg/day than Anadrol does at 50 mg/day and probably even greater tissue gains than Anadrol does at 100 mg/day! Remember, Anadrol gives the user significant water retention and Sd does not, so this discrepancy must be accounted for when asessing it's actual muscle building potential.
I have no doubts that if Anadrol's water gain was removed from the equation, SD would give more actual muscle fiber gains at 30 mg/day than Anadrol would at 100 mg/day.
SD is the most potent oral in the market place for real world muscle growth. Only Dianabol or Anadrol administered at high doses will excced the muscle tissue growth of SD.
Also, SD is NOT a prohormone, it is a designer asteroid. There is a big difference. Designers are REAL AAS and PH's are one or more steps away from becoming acrive hormones."
No point in going over 20mg/day unless you're on Prozac or something (which competes with Nolva for metabolic enzymes). 20mg for 6 weeks has been shown to restore complete HPTA function just as well as higher doses (meaning that 20mg/day is all your body can utilize, and that anything over that is only increasing side effects).
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