Serious advice needed for friend considering steroid use to rehab reconstructed knee

[Far from massive]

I am a newbie but I read a lot and agree 100% with the HGH avenue as well as the testosterone deal.

While I feel that the testosterone would definatlely benifit the muscle recovery and the quads are very important in knee joint rehab, I would also be concerned about the potential for an imbalance to occur between the muscle recovery and the knee structure itself.

There are several very promising clin trials underway studying the effectiveness of HGH injected directly into the joint capsule, as well as one where they are using HGH/Test combo in the capsule (this one I really can't understand since to my way of thinking the tissues within the capsule will not benefit a great deal yet the potential for the comparatively large quantity of test to do damage from sedimentation and interfering with the lube qualities of the synovial fluid within the capsule would seem a lot greater than those from the tiny quantities of HGH. However I am not a research scientist (although I play one on the internet).

Anyway I would suggest your friend discuss the possibility of the usage of HGH use ( whole body, the clin trials are unlikely to take a subject with multiple trauma knee problems) as well as the possible use of test with some top Ortho/Sports med guys and see if this is an avenue that your friend would want to pursue. I certainly would not want to pursue it without doing so in a controlled medical invironment.

[mick86]

Physical therapy and rehab. If he was to take testosterone he may get a false sense of strength/security and do more damage. Testosterone will do nothing for the ligaments or any meniscus.

Knees are slow to repair and rehab. IF anything the only thing I would consider would be HGH but since he has a needle phobia there is not much he can do. He should discuss it with his doctor/surgeon or check into a longevity clinic in regards to HGH

HGH was actually the first thing I suggested to him, I forgot to mention that in my above post. I think the fact that here in Australia the cost is usually around $2000 AUD or more for 5 weeks + the fact it is inected and a "hard core"option were of putting to him. Perhaps if enough people echo my recommendation he will change his opinion. That said the cost is an issue here, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to run it in Thailand.

I am a newbie but I read a lot and agree 100% with the HGH avenue as well as the testosterone deal.

While I feel that the testosterone would definatlely benifit the muscle recovery and the quads are very important in knee joint rehab, I would also be concerned about the potential for an imbalance to occur between the muscle recovery and the knee structure itself.

There are several very promising clin trials underway studying the effectiveness of HGH injected directly into the joint capsule, as well as one where they are using HGH/Test combo in the capsule (this one I really can't understand since to my way of thinking the tissues within the capsule will not benefit a great deal yet the potential for the comparatively large quantity of test to do damage from sedimentation and interfering with the lube qualities of the synovial fluid within the capsule would seem a lot greater than those from the tiny quantities of HGH. However I am not a research scientist (although I play one on the internet).

Anyway I would suggest your friend discuss the possibility of the usage of HGH use ( whole body, the clin trials are unlikely to take a subject with multiple trauma knee problems) as well as the possible use of test with some top Ortho/Sports med guys and see if this is an avenue that your friend would want to pursue. I certainly would not want to pursue it without doing so in a controlled medical invironment.

A well researched and precisely explained response, much thanks. I agree with your views on all accounts. Steroids can cause such an imbalance even in healthy individuals, someone with complex circumstances such as my friend, may be even more susceptible. it would make since to combine both testosterone and HGH imo as this way both muscle and connective tissue stand to benefit.

This is the first I've heard of gh shots directly into joints, I don't understand the theory behind this, I must do some research.
I wonder if peptides such as ghrp-6 and CJC-1295 w/o DAC would be of any benifit to my friend... Compared with HGH they are a hell of a lot cheaper, although as they operate through a slightly less direct pathway and the GH release is only a short 30 minute spike the benefits may be less pronounced. Also a possible issue is that the injection frequency is through the roof. If my friend really doesnt fancy needles this could be a problem.