The young and Steroids

[Nickleby]

It really is a good post Marcus - but I do want to add something to it, if I may.

We all must be cognizant of the fact that all the noobies jumping on seeking advice are going to go ahead and do the cycle regardless. With us writing back saying "you're too young; you've got too much test in your system now; you'll blow your liver early; you'll screw your HPTA up...I just don't think that's the advice that is going to get through to them.

I'd like everyone's thoughts on whether giving this type of advice (or opinion) is actually getting through - or should we really be advising these guys on the "best" way to juice given the circumstances.

We must remember - the great Dorian Yates started at 16. Arnie at 19 (I believe). These boys were munching 100mgs+ ED of Dbols for breakfast with absolutely no fundamental advice at all.

We could take the approach to advise the noobs of doing smaller amounts over smaller periods instead of just flaming them and calling them dopey. They're gonna jab themselves or pop the tabs regardless.

Let's help them instead of criticising. Let's, of course, not condone the practice for teenagers to juice - but let's not run them down. Just remember when YOU began to juice!!!

Cheers all.

[marcus300]

It really is a good post Marcus - but I do want to add something to it, if I may.

We all must be cognizant of the fact that all the noobies jumping on seeking advice are going to go ahead and do the cycle regardless. With us writing back saying "you're too young; you've got too much test in your system now; you'll blow your liver early; you'll screw your HPTA up...I just don't think that's the advice that is going to get through to them.

I'd like everyone's thoughts on whether giving this type of advice (or opinion) is actually getting through - or should we really be advising these guys on the "best" way to juice given the circumstances.

We must remember - the great Dorian Yates started at 16. Arnie at 19 (I believe). These boys were munching 100mgs+ ED of Dbols for breakfast with absolutely no fundamental advice at all.

We could take the approach to advise the noobs of doing smaller amounts over smaller periods instead of just flaming them and calling them dopey. They're gonna jab themselves or pop the tabs regardless.

Let's help them instead of criticising. Let's, of course, not condone the practice for teenagers to juice - but let's not run them down. Just remember when YOU began to juice!!!

Cheers all.

Ive helped and stopped many teenagers from cycling, once they start to understand what I am trying to get across to them a lot start to change their minds, ive had many PM's from younger guys thanking me, so if i can help a few I will carry on doing what I feel is the best way forward for them. I have morals and principles so I wouldn't just give them the answers they require because that would go against everything I try and push onto the younger bodybuilders, it would be pointless in even trying to stop anyone if we did that.

The thing is, there isnt a best way to cycle at their age, I give the best advice for someone with their stats end off, how can I just turn around and say you better make sure you do a good pct and you will be fine then 6 months down the line he is in the HRT forum crying because he is pissing on his hand when he goes for a piss, all because marcus told him it was safe!! there isnt a safe way at there age.

There isn't many Arnolds/Dorians knocking around these parts, normally with many younger bodybuilders it last's the summer then dies off. The younger bodybuilders need to learn how to eat to grow first and build some kind of base instead of thinking the answer is in an injection or pill.

[ramacher]

So if you are 22 and stopped growing according to my doc, my test levels will continue to increase until I am 25. So Marcus are you still saying if you are still younger than 25 but you have stopped growing steroids will still negatively impact you?

[Luccuss]

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most people my age will just say, yeah whateva..
so i would recommend putting down both options, let them know the details of ages n effects but also give them a cycle that they can use, and if they use properly they will not be in the way of any harm, i know people who supply heavy anabolics for first time users. i recommend just put up a cycle, very easy to understand as if a 12yr old was reading, including how much to eat, what to eat and what not to eat for either gaining just muscle, just bulk or inbetween,(sounds bad) but its better than getting it from black market and having no idea of whats happening. thankyou.

[numbere]

in reply to this comment
most people my age will just say, yeah whateva..
so i would recommend putting down both options, let them know the details of ages n effects but also give them a cycle that they can use, and if they use properly they will not be in the way of any harm, i know people who supply heavy anabolics for first time users. i recommend just put up a cycle, very easy to understand as if a 12yr old was reading, including how much to eat, what to eat and what not to eat for either gaining just muscle, just bulk or inbetween,(sounds bad) but its better than getting it from black market and having no idea of whats happening. thankyou.

I would recommend that if you would like to see a thread written to spoon feed young men how to cycle that you do the research and compile it yourself. You can be the forum's specialist on cycling with an undeveloped endocrine system. No no one on this forum who fully comprehends the dangers of cycling at young age would make a thread like that because it completely undermines the morals of this board. There are many reasons why this is the best AAS forum on the internet. One of those reasons is the overlying stance on AAS use and the young. You may be aware of the risks but you don't fully understand them because if you did then you would know there is no such thing as safe cycling at a young age. Welcome to the forum!