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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    all young guys who knoe it all should read this
    no offence to op but kids can learn from this
    Agreed. I wrote up a long post with my detailed issues in the member's intro section about a year ago (seems to have dissapeared). My health is a mess, ED issues, terrible headaches 24/7, and obviously poor gym performance. I wish my past could help more people wait to use
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Good to know. In that case, I would just go on self-administered TRT (or blast and cruise, really). HRT doesn't have to be Dr prescribed, a lot of guys do their own for a multitude of reasons (but generally just because their doc is giving them the runaround) 100-200mg of test E per week should have you at a real good range, and you would obviously monitor this through blood tests. IMO, there is no point in doing traditional cycles with PCT if your natural test levels suck anyway.
    This is what I eventually expect I will do. I am just going on the sliver of hope that maybe if I have a nice run with HCG and nolva (test included for fun) that maybe just maybe it will be enough to restart my system. If it fails, then I will go on with the self-HRT. The reason I haven't done it yet is that I currently compete inj a drug tested powerlifting federation (planning to start the cycle the day after I next compete...then not lift there anymore) and I am nervous about fertility issues on HRT. Thanks a lot man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotai View Post

    This is what I eventually expect I will do. I am just going on the sliver of hope that maybe if I have a nice run with HCG and nolva (test included for fun) that maybe just maybe it will be enough to restart my system. If it fails, then I will go on with the self-HRT. The reason I haven't done it yet is that I currently compete inj a drug tested powerlifting federation (planning to start the cycle the day after I next compete...then not lift there anymore) and I am nervous about fertility issues on HRT. Thanks a lot man
    Like anything else, it isn't a sure thing, but blast doses of HCG+HMG and Clomid have (temporarily) done wonders for guys who were believed sterile from years of continuous AAS use.

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    In all honesty this would make for a good sticky. We all give the advice of not starting young but this is the WHY behind it. I appreciate your honesty here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Like anything else, it isn't a sure thing, but blast doses of HCG+HMG and Clomid have (temporarily) done wonders for guys who were believed sterile from years of continuous AAS use.
    I think this is what I'll do for when that time comes. Maybe kids around 24 years old, so I have 3 years. My only thoughts on it now are I don't want to do too much to further complicate the conception process.
    I've thought about just doing HCG+Clomid to see if I can maybe kickstart myself for good (though the literature I've read would suggest any kickstarting would probably be temporary for me), but I figured why not throw some test in for fun and see if a great PCT is just what the doctor ordered
    Quote Originally Posted by bigno5;538***2
    In all honesty this would make for a good sticky. We all give the advice of not starting young but this is the WHY behind it. I appreciate your honesty here.
    If a mod is interested I'd like to be able to type up the first post a lot better. I have a long list of experiences and negatives that have come to me through this. I have seen a lot of horror stories, so I don't feel like mine is anything ground breaking. Most of my old highschool friends are going through the same thing.

    I like the idea of 16 week cycles. I feel it would be optimal timing to allow your body to get used to the new weight it is carrying around but not so long that its just like a heavy cruising cycle. It seems like a lot of vets around these parts are more partial to 12 weekers so because of that, I would probably revise the cycle to be 12 weeks instead of 16. Any thoughts? 12 weeks of test e/c at 400mg and HCG at 500iu followed by nolva 40/40/20/20

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