Thanks everyone for the advice and your time. I have an appointment to meet with my fmaily doctor in two weeks. He didn't sound too optimistic that I have Low-T and I think he is going to be tough to get test out of him. Oh well I will at least get my bloodwork done and move from there. If test is good then I have nothing to blame except my work ethic and diet...oh man can't imagine how to improve on that! I am suspect that I still am not eating enough and I overtrain but I am learning tons on this site and I am becoming quite addicted to reading the posts...thanks again!!!!