i eat eat eat & eat & train but no gains ffs !!!!!!!!!

[smashingbox]

I used to have this problem, and only when I ate at 4000-5000kcals did anything change, and I had to cheat and dirty bulk because I just couldnt eat all the food required - 3 shakes a day on top of meals (not the healthiest meals either), first one on waking was 60g straight maltodextrin and 40g whey, same for PWO, then before bed I made a monster: 300ml milk, 3 scoops ice cream, 2 spoons peanut butter, 60g oats, 50g caesin and 10g glutamine... it came out like concrete but was actually really nice... took that right before bed (weak sleeping tablets helped). Prob wasn't healthy, and I put on a little fat... but I also gained muscle and broke my plateau.

Also, I found Max OT routine good for breaking a plateau and bulking, not sure how Max OT is viewed around here but I liked it, let me know if you want a link.

My 2 cents.

[Newyorkrockstar]

I used to have this problem, and only when I ate at 4000-5000kcals did anything change, and I had to cheat and dirty bulk because I just couldnt eat all the food required - 3 shakes a day on top of meals (not the healthiest meals either), first one on waking was 60g straight maltodextrin and 40g whey, same for PWO, then before bed I made a monster: 300ml milk, 3 scoops ice cream, 2 spoons peanut butter, 60g oats, 50g caesin and 10g glutamine... it came out like concrete but was actually really nice... took that right before bed (weak sleeping tablets helped). Prob wasn't healthy, and I put on a little fat... but I also gained muscle and broke my plateau.

Also, I found Max OT routine good for breaking a plateau and bulking, not sure how Max OT is viewed around here but I liked it, let me know if you want a link.

My 2 cents.

did that bedtime shake come out like concrete the same way it went in? lol damn..