Jump starting a cycle with prop

[stevey_6t9]

dont do it, i did it for my first and got terrible sides from the drop after the kickstart.

stick to one

[MBMETC]

dont do it, i did it for my first and got terrible sides from the drop after the kickstart.

stick to one

Elaborate please stevey

[anabolicextreme]

I can see what stevey is saying about the drop. That was my main concern for timing and dosing. Now that I think about it, I feel that it would be tough to judge when to stop the prop and decide when the test e is really going to kick in. Ive had some trouble with unsteady test levels and sides in the past so i'm gonna just stick with test e for this cyc.. thanks guys

[in2shape]

dont do it, i did it for my first and got terrible sides from the drop after the kickstart.

stick to one

what sorta sides ?? did u do a prop test cyp/enth cycle ?

I can see what stevey is saying about the drop. That was my main concern for timing and dosing. Now that I think about it, I feel that it would be tough to judge when to stop the prop and decide when the test e is really going to kick in. Ive had some trouble with unsteady test levels and sides in the past so i'm gonna just stick with test e for this cyc.. thanks guys

hope ya dont mind me joining in ya thread cheers man goodluck with cycle !!!


if i can get some var ill run that or even tbol for 4 weeks at the moment tho i can only get tst test and more test !!! even suspension

[stevey_6t9]

Elaborate please stevey

I can see what stevey is saying about the drop. That was my main concern for timing and dosing. Now that I think about it, I feel that it would be tough to judge when to stop the prop and decide when the test e is really going to kick in. Ive had some trouble with unsteady test levels and sides in the past so i'm gonna just stick with test e for this cyc.. thanks guys

what sorta sides ?? did u do a prop test cyp/enth cycle ?




hope ya dont mind me joining in ya thread cheers man goodluck with cycle !!!


if i can get some var ill run that or even tbol for 4 weeks at the moment tho i can only get tst test and more test !!! even suspension

i ran 500mg wk cyp and 100mg eod of prop for the first 4 weeks. So i was on 900mg of test the first 4 weeks... which is way to much to begin with.

As soon as i dropped the prop you go from 900 to 500mg, a huge jump... and as a result i got terrible sides.

[cro]

what sides did u get bro?

[anabolicextreme]

I would front load the prop at 200mgs the first 2 shots then 100mgs eod for your jump. the 500mgs test every week is fine. I would add in some EQ or better yet primobolan if available but you can do just fine on test alone. Do NOT DO DECA if you are concerned about bloating. That can be the worst bloating agent in certain people. Diet is the key here. If you are saying that you are having a bloat problem then I assume your sodium and simple carb intake is too high? All test will convert to different degrees into estrogen and that's ok in controlled amounts because estrogen helps build muscle along with test by providing an ideal environment. There are so many estrogen receptors in fat cells it's crazy. So when we have too much estrogen in our body the H20 flows to these receptors in the fat cells like water to a sponge. So I would recommend something like armidex (SERM) to limit the amount of conversion. I bet your body fat is closer to 20% or better if you have it tested accurately? No slight to you so please don't take offense. So you need to concentrate and cleaning up your diet and sticking to your cardio from what I'm understanding. Good luck.

Actually yeah deca was the main culprit in my bloating problem, not to mention the "rebound effect" i noticed after pct. I experienced a large amount of water retention as soon as i stopped pct after 4 weeks of nolva and clomid. Still havent managed to get it off completely, therefore 16% is an overstatement i'm probably closer to 14% without the water retention.
And yes I am definitely considering running an AI this time, just because I am rather susceptible to estrogen related side effects. Which ai do you guys prefer running during a cycle? hmm what a hard decision.. arimidex letro or aromasin?

[stevey_6t9]

what sides did u get bro?

severe cystic acne (stil have scars), gyno, heart palpitations, terrible LDL-HDL (even on statins).