Yellow Eyes

[calstate23]

Complete and utter BS.
Homebrewing is far safer than just anything short of getting it straight from the pharmacy (assuming you aren't retarded and can do basic math and run everything through a .2um filter).

Oh, and 60mg of Dbol is far from unheard of and it isn't even nearly as toxic as you're making it sound. Plenty of guys have run it practically year-round because their liver enzyme tests came back fine. I have a buddy who just ran 50mg/day for 8 weeks then got his blood tested like 2 weeks after coming off and his liver values were fine.

Safer assuming you have no idea where your gear came from. I'm talking about human grade legit sh*t. Maybe safer also as in you know whats in it, but its hard to make sure its sterile enough for use. I had an idiot friend who tried the same thing. Got a massive abscess from it that was really infected. Guy was actually in the hospital for a few days.

Besides, just like you don't know if the steroids you got are legit, you also aren't going to know if the mixes you got are legit too. It could be mixed with a bunch of sh*t you have no idea. Also, if you do your measuring right thats great, but again the mixtures themselves may have wrong mg doses so therefore it could be very inaccurate. Right, kind of like if you read a label and it says 100 calories per serving...But what if the labels are wrong? You can't trust that sh*t you use to make it either.

As for the 60mg, yeah it can be done, I've done it but its pushing it. Thats fine if your buddy ran 60 mg 8 weeks but that is REALLY pushing it and I don't think any would disagree with that. I've pushed it myself knowingly but I would not do it that often. And for the guys that run it all year long they are definitely NOT taking 60mg. They are taking anywhere between 10-20 mg for maintenance and thats it.

[Brewster]

Safer assuming you have no idea where your gear came from. I'm talking about human grade legit sh*t. Maybe safer also as in you know whats in it, but its hard to make sure its sterile enough for use. I had an idiot friend who tried the same thing. Got a massive abscess from it that was really infected. Guy was actually in the hospital for a few days.

Besides, just like you don't know if the steroids you got are legit, you also aren't going to know if the mixes you got are legit too. It could be mixed with a bunch of sh*t you have no idea. Also, if you do your measuring right thats great, but again the mixtures themselves may have wrong mg doses so therefore it could be very inaccurate. Right, kind of like if you read a label and it says 100 calories per serving...But what if the labels are wrong? You can't trust that sh*t you use to make it either.

As for the 60mg, yeah it can be done, I've done it but its pushing it. Thats fine if your buddy ran 60 mg 8 weeks but that is REALLY pushing it and I don't think any would disagree with that. I've pushed it myself knowingly but I would not do it that often. And for the guys that run it all year long they are definitely NOT taking 60mg. They are taking anywhere between 10-20 mg for maintenance and thats it.

I did not want to get into a brewing debate. But If you brewed you would understand

[Bonaparte]

Safer assuming you have no idea where your gear came from. I'm talking about human grade legit sh*t. Maybe safer also as in you know whats in it, but its hard to make sure its sterile enough for use. I had an idiot friend who tried the same thing. Got a massive abscess from it that was really infected. Guy was actually in the hospital for a few days.

Even HG stuff you buy over the internet could be fake, in which case it will be just like any UGL gear, if not worse (but probably worse, since they don't have to worry about upholding a rep).

Besides, just like you don't know if the steroids you got are legit, you also aren't going to know if the mixes you got are legit too. It could be mixed with a bunch of sh*t you have no idea. Also, if you do your measuring right thats great, but again the mixtures themselves may have wrong mg doses so therefore it could be very inaccurate. Right, kind of like if you read a label and it says 100 calories per serving...But what if the labels are wrong? You can't trust that sh*t you use to make it either.

Checking the legitimacy of a powder is pretty easy if you know what properties to look for. Sure, it may have trace contaminants, but so does everything else you eat or drink. And you weigh it all out when you brew, so the dosing is going to be accurate to within a percent or two, assuming your math is good (most of the impurities in raw materials are just water).

As for the 60mg, yeah it can be done, I've done it but its pushing it. Thats fine if your buddy ran 60 mg 8 weeks but that is REALLY pushing it and I don't think any would disagree with that. I've pushed it myself knowingly but I would not do it that often. And for the guys that run it all year long they are definitely NOT taking 60mg. They are taking anywhere between 10-20 mg for maintenance and thats it.

Answers in red.

[calstate23]

Answers in red.

Again though how do you know the strength of the powder??? That can never be 100% accurate. The strengths could be all wrong. For instance 1 g powder equals how many mg?? You could easily be making a pill that is supposedly a 20 mg pill but powder is much more stronger and has a much higher concentrate then what is supposedly labeled. You could really be making a 40mg, 60 mg, who the hell knows. You cannot claim you would ever know the right mg's which is why I think its stupid. Cycle's should be off of knowing EXACTLY what you are taking, not GUESSING.

Just find a dirty doc, thats what I got and I get all pharmaceutical grade. Believe me, there are a ton of them out there.

[Bonaparte]

Again though how do you know the strength of the powder??? That can never be 100% accurate. The strengths could be all wrong. For instance 1 g powder equals how many mg?? You could easily be making a pill that is supposedly a 20 mg pill but powder is much more stronger and has a much higher concentrate then what is supposedly labeled. You could really be making a 40mg, 60 mg, who the hell knows. You cannot claim you would ever know the right mg's which is why I think its stupid. Cycle's should be off of knowing EXACTLY what you are taking, not GUESSING.

Just find a dirty doc, thats what I got and I get all pharmaceutical grade. Believe me, there are a ton of them out there.

What are you talking about? The powder is always full strength (except for the common 1-3% of impurities, which, as I already mentioned, is mostly water). 1g of powder always equals 1,000mg. This is just straight powder we're starting out with, not some blend.

[calstate23]

What are you talking about? The powder is always full strength (except for the common 1-3% of impurities, which, as I already mentioned, is mostly water). 1g of powder always equals 1,000mg. This is just straight powder we're starting out with, not some blend.

What are you talking about? I made it pretty clear. That 1 g of powder that equals "1,000mg". There is no PROOF that that 1 g is 1,000mg. How the fu*k would you know if that is correct? You can't, plain and simple.

[Bonaparte]

What are you talking about? I made it pretty clear. That 1 g of powder that equals "1,000mg". There is no PROOF that that 1 g is 1,000mg. How the fu*k would you know if that is correct? You can't, plain and simple.

Dude...you're not helping your case here.
1g is always 1000mg. If you want to argue that it may be impure and that of that 1000mg, only some portion of it is actual hormone, ok. But nobody is cutting hormone powders with anything. It would be obvious, since each powder has its own distinctive characteristics, and it would throw off a melting point test. Besides, this isn't a vluable rec drug, its just test or whatever. There would be little financial incentive in doing so, since the powders don't cost shit to produce and (most importantly), there is no middleman between China and the US who could turn a large profit by cutting anything down (as you would have in the case of a domestic UGL or a middleman the rec drug trade).

[Brewster]

Again though how do you know the strength of the powder??? That can never be 100% accurate. The strengths could be all wrong. For instance 1 g powder equals how many mg?? You could easily be making a pill that is supposedly a 20 mg pill but powder is much more stronger and has a much higher concentrate then what is supposedly labeled. You could really be making a 40mg, 60 mg, who the hell knows. You cannot claim you would ever know the right mg's which is why I think its stupid. Cycle's should be off of knowing EXACTLY what you are taking, not GUESSING.

Just find a dirty doc, thats what I got and I get all pharmaceutical grade. Believe me, there are a ton of them out there.

No offence bro,
Just stop your argument because you are just showing how little you kno with each post

[calstate23]

No offence bro,
Just stop your argument because you are just showing how little you kno with each post

No offense either bro, but like I tell everyone who thinks they know more then me. Look at my picture and then look at yourself. Believe me, I've been around. I've seen people do it yes and it works. I've also seen people do it and seriously hurt themselves.

Its plain and simple, you are buying the powder correct? There is no way of knowing that 1 g truly equals 1,000 mg. Its impossible. And its also impossible to know if what you are buying is truly the right substance. So please don't say I don't know what I am talking about because you and no can ever prove any of the powders is truly accurate. So actually I am very very correct.

[Brewster]

No offense either bro, but like I tell everyone who thinks they know more then me. Look at my picture and then look at yourself. Believe me, I've been around. I've seen people do it yes and it works. I've also seen people do it and seriously hurt themselves.

Its plain and simple, you are buying the powder correct? There is no way of knowing that 1 g truly equals 1,000 mg. Its impossible. And its also impossible to know if what you are buying is truly the right substance. So please don't say I don't know what I am talking about because you and no can ever prove any of the powders is truly accurate. So actually I am very very correct.

I congradulate you on a great physique, There is no doubt in my mind you can correctly read a label and inject

However,
When it comes to homebrewing. 1g will matamatically always equal 1,000 MG. It will truly always equal that.
Also,
Where do you think pharma companies get the powders they use?

[calstate23]

I congradulate you on a great physique, There is no doubt in my mind you can correctly read a label and inject

However,
When it comes to homebrewing. 1g will matamatically always equal 1,000 MG. It will truly always equal that.
Also,
Where do you think pharma companies get the powders they use?

Dude, my only point here is that you are not a chemist. You did not create the powder yourself. You have no fu*king clue whats in the powder. This statement saying "ITS ALWAYS 1000MG" is BS because you can't even prove what you have! This is hormones, not fu*cking table sugar. A teaspoon of hormone isn't always going to be 1000mg because guess what? You don't know what hormone you are actually getting. Therefore, it could be more or less.

Go ahead, just keep injecting your homebrew. You will be the one that will suffer regardless. But if you are brewing your own steroids and you don't even know what jaundice is and the symptoms you probably shouldn't using steroids at all

[Matt]

No offense either bro, but like I tell everyone who thinks they know more then me. Look at my picture and then look at yourself. Believe me, I've been around. I've seen people do it yes and it works. I've also seen people do it and seriously hurt themselves.

Its plain and simple, you are buying the powder correct? There is no way of knowing that 1 g truly equals 1,000 mg. Its impossible. And its also impossible to know if what you are buying is truly the right substance. So please don't say I don't know what I am talking about because you and no can ever prove any of the powders is truly accurate. So actually I am very very correct.

First off lets keep this debate clean from any flaming, we often don't all agree and have different opinions on certain issues so lets continue in an adult way...

Second, whilst i agree making your own gear is imo safer than buying ugl, at least you know you've made it clean and correct. Theres still the issue about the legitimacy of your source, most powders come out of China and lord they make or copy some real rubbish as ive found myself. I therefore believe calsate has some very good points....

Jmho....

[Brewster]

First off lets keep this debate clean from any flaming, we often don't all agree and have different opinions on certain issues so lets continue in an adult way...

Second, whilst i agree making your own gear is imo safer than buying ugl, at least you know you've made it clean and correct. Theres still the issue about the legitimacy of your source, most powders come out of China and lord they make or copy some real rubbish as ive found myself. I therefore believe calsate has so very good points....

Jmho....

I completly agree with the bolded statement.

There is nothing wrong with this point and this point alone

[calstate23]

First off lets keep this debate clean from any flaming, we often don't all agree and have different opinions on certain issues so lets continue in an adult way...

Second, whilst i agree making your own gear is imo safer than buying ugl, at least you know you've made it clean and correct. Theres still the issue about the legitimacy of your source, most powders come out of China and lord they make or copy some real rubbish as ive found myself. I therefore believe calsate has some very good points....

Jmho....

Exactly, they have no idea what they are getting.

[muscle_dysmorphia]

Its plain and simple, you are buying the powder correct? There is no way of knowing that 1 g truly equals 1,000 mg. Its impossible. And its also impossible to know if what you are buying is truly the right substance. So please don't say I don't know what I am talking about because you and no can ever prove any of the powders is truly accurate. So actually I am very very correct.

AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.

Welcome to grade 8 chemistry and grade 1 math.

"So actually I am very correct" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. omfg omfg omfg...!!! lol.

It's a conversion TO A DIFFERENT UNIT OF MEASUREMENT. IT'S A UNIVERSAL CONVERSION, NOT AN ASSUMPTION.