Here to learn and need help

[Jonathan11]

I agree your too young but if you must, a good first cycle would be d-bol wks 1-4 and test/deca wks 1-12. Make sure you have all your PCT and some Anastrozole on hand in case of gyno.

[Matt]

I agree your too young but if you must, a good first cycle would be d-bol wks 1-4 and test/deca wks 1-12. Make sure you have all your PCT and some Anastrozole on hand in case of gyno.

Thats some poor advice right there, we do everything we can at ar to dissuade those under the age of 25 not to use aas. We understand that some get this urge to give anyone cycle advice regardless but even if the op was 25 and was in perfect condition for a cycle that there cycle that you suggest isn't good for a first timer. I suggest you post less and read more...

[Jonathan11]

Thats some poor advice right there, we do everything we can at ar to dissuade those under the age of 25 not to use aas. We understand that some get this urge to give anyone cycle advice regardless but even if the op was 25 and was in perfect condition for a cycle that there cycle that you suggest isn't good for a first timer. I suggest you post less and read more...

Just curious why would that be a bad first cycle?

[Matt]

Just curious why would that be a bad first cycle?

Because a first cycle should have one compound in it, If you ran the 3 compounds you suggest and after a few weeks the op suffered serious sides and had stop his cycle, how would he know which compound was causing those sides? On top of that your suggesting a nor19 for a first cycle, not a good idea, what would you have him do for his second cycle? Tren, slin, gh, adrol, test and deca for good measure??

But all that said, the op is years away from aas....

[LiftTrainEat]

I actually just recently quit training mma it was getting in the way of my studies to much and honestly, I lost the heart for it. It is very disappointing for everyone to tell me I'm too young because I have been told to wait until I'm 23 since I was 18. I actually took a trip to my doctor last week and he said my growth plates have sealed...(he used a different word for this process It slips my memory). I told him I was thinking about using steroids and he , of course, dissuaded me from using them but he said he started when he was 21 and doesn't regret it, but it affects others in different ways.

[MBMETC]

I actually just recently quit training mma it was getting in the way of my studies to much and honestly, I lost the heart for it. It is very disappointing for everyone to tell me I'm too young because I have been told to wait until I'm 23 since I was 18. I actually took a trip to my doctor last week and he said my growth plates have sealed...(he used a different word for this process It slips my memory). I told him I was thinking about using steroids and he , of course, dissuaded me from using them but he said he started when he was 21 and doesn't regret it, but it affects others in different ways.

growth plates and endocrine system are the two areas of full maturation we are looking for, not one or the other. 25 on the endocrine system seems to be a reasonably safe age for that process. no one can say 100% you will have problems they just less likely the older you are.

[Jonathan11]

Because a first cycle should have one compound in it, If you ran the 3 compounds you suggest and after a few weeks the op suffered serious sides and had stop his cycle, how would he know which compound was causing those sides? On top of that your suggesting a nor19 for a first cycle, not a good idea, what would you have him do for his second cycle? Tren, slin, gh, adrol, test and deca for good measure??

But all that said, the op is years away from aas....

Makes perfect sense I nvr thought about it that way.