which would be better to take Ephedrine or CLen? or are they the same thing?
hi mate! would you recommend clen? im thinking of starting a cycle. im big into my training and have a good clean diet! lost lots of weight and have toned up alot of places on my body but still need to shift about 5-10kgs im guessing.. dont wanna get the big mass looking lad that falls about the gym.. big into cardio, running cycling boxing circuits hiking you name i love it and do 3/4 weights sessions a week..
was trying to get clen and the lad tells me that ephedrine is the same but i dont think it is! have you any adice on what to take? i was thinking clen with anavar maybe?
cheers
2nd that...
Guys, I want to tell you few rules of using clenbuterol.
To avoid bad things you should split your dauly dose in 2 equal parts with a 6 hrs in between.
If you have a tremor just add 2mg of ketotifen before you sleep.
Ketotifen also regenerates sensitivity of your beta-2 receptors so you can use clen for 3 weeks, adding keto in days 7-21.
If your high HR makes you feel scared use beta-1-antagonists (bisoprolol 5mg in the morning ED for example), this may affect your result though.
If you have convulsions add 200-400mg of Kalium (from vitamin-complex or bananas for ex.) and drink 5-6l of water ED.
Follow these rules and clen will make you happy - it works as hell.
You can stack it with T3 @50mcg ED for 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off.
Last edited by mrfoxwolf; 01-06-2011 at 10:03 AM.
clen kills lol i hate that stuff. i always get it saying i will take it but feel like shit.
All sides can be reduced. I use clen to prevent fat storage. Clen is one of the best drugs to fight with fat imo.
It is risky if you just eat it hoping it will be your panacea without studying the subject. Use your brain and results will make you happy. Some people have sides, some dont just because sensitivity of beta receptors and their quantity is individual and genetically programmed. Thats why dosage of 120mcg ED can make some shake like heroin-addicts, while others will feel good.
Last edited by mrfoxwolf; 01-06-2011 at 10:08 AM.
It works a maximum of 3 weeks with ketotifen, then beta receptors lose sensitivity and stop working. You have to use it 2on-2off or 3on-2off week cycles.
Start laddering on days 1-4 20mcg 40mcg 60mcg 80mcg then use 80mcg until day 14 split on 2 doses first in the morning on empty stomach, second 6 hrs after. This is first clen cycle that will show you how it works. You can increase working dose on next cycle if youll feel ok on it. Buy bisoprolol in case of hr, and ketotifen in case of jittery.
Last edited by mrfoxwolf; 01-06-2011 at 10:38 AM.
Sides usually vanish after a week. If they dont use keto/biso.
dont forget to take Taurin with your clen.
Yes do not exceed 80mcg on first cycle it will be quite safe. If you add alpha-2-antagonists to the cycle it could improve results. Atm i cycle on clen+oxyelite pro, they should work in synergy according to theory, feeling good.
clen made me feel like a crack addict.
on cycle i used clenviscerate, theres none of the systematic sides when used topically with a localized fat burner.
clen keeping the bloat down?
From those which you can buy idazoksan and yohimbine. And also oxy elite pro uses new formula without yohimbine, which is included in most popular fat-burners like lipo6, hydroxycut, animal cuts eyc including a2blockers which im testing atm.
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