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    What research told you to keep your test lower than your tren? Tren is very similar to Deca, there are some that can get away with running them higher than test, but they are not the majority. The sides that drive people crazy are the adrogenic ones, so when you lower test, you lower overall androgens, and of coarse side. You will still be exposed the progesterone/prolactin sides, which may or may not be a be problem. Just like some don't get estro sides, some don't p/p sides, but again not the majority.

    100mgs/day is way, way, way too much. I've run lots of cycles up too 1500mgs, and I'm only running 75mg every three days with great results. Lets review:
    700mgs/week is bad
    I'm on 175mgs a week and growing well with 585mg/test-going on 12lbs in 15 days so far with some d-bol the first twelve.
    The author of Anabolics 2009 recomends a start dose of 150mg, just as reference point.
    Good tren, and you don't need much, by week two you see noticeable strength gains, even earlier with prop.

    T3 and tren are excellent mates! You will save, even gain, LBM on tren and moderate doses of t3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckhombre View Post
    What research told you to keep your test lower than your tren? Tren is very similar to Deca, there are some that can get away with running them higher than test, but they are not the majority. The sides that drive people crazy are the adrogenic ones, so when you lower test, you lower overall androgens, and of coarse side. You will still be exposed the progesterone/prolactin sides, which may or may not be a be problem. Just like some don't get estro sides, some don't p/p sides, but again not the majority.

    100mgs/day is way, way, way too much. I've run lots of cycles up too 1500mgs, and I'm only running 75mg every three days with great results. Lets review:
    700mgs/week is bad
    I'm on 175mgs a week and growing well with 585mg/test-going on 12lbs in 15 days so far with some d-bol the first twelve.
    The author of Anabolics 2009 recomends a start dose of 150mg, just as reference point.
    Good tren, and you don't need much, by week two you see noticeable strength gains, even earlier with prop.

    T3 and tren are excellent mates! You will save, even gain, LBM on tren and moderate doses of t3.
    I really appreciate the info. I like 75mg every three days I am NOT a more is better kinda person so I will try the 75 every third whats the half life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalltime7 View Post
    I really appreciate the info. I like 75mg every three days I am NOT a more is better kinda person so I will try the 75 every third whats the half life?
    OP, x2 with that Dec11 said. Stick to was previously stated. Pinning TrenA ED vs EOD will make a night and day difference, but pinning it E3D??? Good luck to you sir... In addition to all this, do have caber on had for prolactin build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psa View Post
    OP, x2 with that Dec11 said. Stick to was previously stated. Pinning TrenA ED vs EOD will make a night and day difference, but pinning it E3D??? Good luck to you sir... In addition to all this, do have caber on had for prolactin build up.
    ok so the vote seems to be tren 100 EOD.......... simple enough.

    so whats the opinion of the test dosage? assuming I currently doing 800/week test C??

    and is 8 weeks long enough on tren?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalltime7 View Post
    ok so the vote seems to be tren 100 EOD.......... simple enough.

    so whats the opinion of the test dosage? assuming I currently doing 800/week test C??

    and is 8 weeks long enough on tren?
    it is on tren a. the test is up 2 you mate, i personally wont evr raise mine above 250mgs again. how are your sides on test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckhombre View Post
    What research told you to keep your test lower than your tren? Tren is very similar to Deca...
    Interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by psa View Post
    Interesting...
    ya, mr duckie does have some weird 'advice'

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