Anyone here actually done both taper down cycle (w/no SERM) and cycle + SERM?

[SMcB]

OK, thanks for the input, guys. I guess the only way I'd know how much more effective SERMs are for PCT would be to do cycles with AND without. I guess I just don't trust SERMs for PCT just yet, since these drugs were initially developed for women. Take tamoxifen, for example. This stuff supposedly acts like estrogen by competing for and binding to estrogen receptors in breast tissue. I just think that the seemingly increasing amount of cases of gyno and 'delayed gyno' in steroid users today are somewhat related to SERM usage. Of course, it's just my opinion. Does anyone here have any studies proving that SERM use in PCT will result in more permanent gains? I'm assuming this is why people risk taking these drugs in the first place.

[Swifto]

OK, thanks for the input, guys. I guess the only way I'd know how much more effective SERMs are for PCT would be to do cycles with AND without. I guess I just don't trust SERMs for PCT just yet, since these drugs were initially developed for women. Take tamoxifen, for example. This stuff supposedly acts like estrogen by competing for and binding to estrogen receptors in breast tissue. I just think that the seemingly increasing amount of cases of gyno and 'delayed gyno' in steroid users today are somewhat related to SERM usage. Of course, it's just my opinion. Does anyone here have any studies proving that SERM use in PCT will result in more permanent gains? I'm assuming this is why people risk taking these drugs in the first place.

You've come here and done hardly any research yourself at all, but have some pretty strong opinions indeed.

How can you have such opinions when you know so little about SERMs? You cant.

There are tons of studies on SERM usage in hypogondal males. Start with the sticky's in the PCT Forum.