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    Quote Originally Posted by flexandex View Post
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t-is-it/page10
    Post 374.

    Edit: another thread i made with the same question: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ar.&highlight=

    There is conflicting schools of thought on wether to run a-dex either from the beginning or only as sides appear, tbh i'm happy to rely on swiftos advice. Hes pretty ridiculously intelligent.
    Its on swifto's advice that i decided to run a preventative dose of arimidex. If you want to take that up with him.. christ.. god help you.


    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
    i cant imagine swifto knowingly advising and 19yr old. alot of ppl do not get estro sides, how would you ever know you're prone if you blindly take adex and why would you need it if you're not prone?
    i'll believe he stated that, if i see swifto posting it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    i cant imagine swifto knowingly advising and 19yr old. alot of ppl do not get estro sides, how would you ever know you're prone if you blindly take adex and why would you need it if you're not prone?
    i'll believe he stated that, if i see swifto posting it
    Not everyone is as arogant and hard headed as you are, my friend.

    The drawbacks to taking a small dose of a-dex are very small. A good percentage of AAS users follow the protocol of a preventative dose - is it really mindblowing that there is more than one school of thought on the matter?
    Atleast you learnt something in this thread eh? A small dose of a-dex as a preventative measure is a perfectly acceptable option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flexandex View Post
    Not everyone is as arogant and hard headed as you are, my friend.

    The drawbacks to taking a small dose of a-dex are very small. A good percentage of AAS users follow the protocol of a preventative dose - is it really mindblowing that there is more than one school of thought on the matter?
    Atleast you learnt something in this thread eh? A small dose of a-dex as a preventative measure is a perfectly acceptable option.
    you really need to look up tht word arrogant in a dictionary and learn how to use it correctly. using powerful drugs unnecessarily is stupid.

    now, i couldnt care less about you, the recent posts are aimed at provided correct info to the other kids you're trying to 'advise'
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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    you really need to look up tht word arrogant in a dictionary and learn how to use it correctly. using powerful drugs unnecessarily is stupid.

    now, i couldnt care less about you, the recent posts are aimed at provided correct info to the other kids you're trying to 'advise'
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogant
    2: showing an offensive attitude of superiority.

    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    now, i couldnt care less about you, the recent posts are aimed at provided correct info to the other kids you're trying to 'advise'
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    i dont advise young users. sorry
    lol man, i really don't even need to comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flexandex View Post
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrogant
    2: showing an offensive attitude of superiority.




    lol man, i really don't even need to comment.
    oh so you just apply it to every statement, because your a silly child and everything you dont agree with is arrogance, in your eyes?
    you've just shown your immaturity kiddo, maybe when you do eventually grow up you'll see your arrogance and tht adults dont generally suffer fools gladly

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    oh so you just apply it to every statement, because your a silly child and everything you dont agree with is arrogance, in your eyes?
    you've just shown your immaturity kiddo, maybe when you do eventually grow up you'll see your arrogance and tht adults dont generally suffer fools gladly
    he will suffer the consequences of his actions. No point in going back and forth with him, all it does is bring up this thread unecessarily to the "new posts"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    he will suffer the consequences of his actions. No point in going back and forth with him, all it does is bring up this thread unecessarily to the "new posts"
    I have a lot of PM's from user's around the 18-25 mark who have "f*cked up" and cant get an erection upon request.

    No energy, no energy, loss of strength, anxiety, no confidence, gyno, acne, etc... They thought they had every base covered, f*ck, I thought I did at 19 years old and ended up with a small case of gyno and terrible scaring on my back, chest and shoulders.

    If you have supreme genetics and have one massive base already (which you dont flexandex), you shouldnt be using AAS at 19 years old. I dont care which way or angle you try to claim otherwise, its a risk vs. reward ratio and it vastly in the opposite side of your school of thought.

    You have planned well and I hope I dont get a PM from you on eday, or at all, asking my advice as you as well have "f*cked up".

    And lastly, you have a a chip on your shoulder. With your attitude you wont last long here.

    Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACHINE5150 View Post
    he will suffer the consequences of his actions. No point in going back and forth with him, all it does is bring up this thread unecessarily to the "new posts"
    i really hope so. im well and truely finished here now, spoilt teens will always think they are right. i was more interested in steering other naive kids away from it anyhow. i hope they have the sense not to copy

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    i cant imagine swifto knowingly advising and 19yr old. alot of ppl do not get estro sides, how would you ever know you're prone if you blindly take adex and why would you need it if you're not prone?
    i'll believe he stated that, if i see swifto posting it
    If I had known this I wouldnt have advised it straight off, no.

    However, if the user is going to use regardless, they should definitely be using an AI. Even moreso at a younger age because of 3 important reasons.

    1. Estrogen is very suppressive to the HPTA. Directly at the pituitary impairing endogenous LH and FSH production.

    2. Estrogen is directly inhibitive to the leydig cells.

    3. Estrogen is responsible primarily for epiphyseal growth plate closure.

    Dont think your right here though "flexandex". You shouldnt be using AAS.

    Quote Originally Posted by flexandex View Post
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t-is-it/page10
    Post 374.

    Edit: another thread i made with the same question: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ar.&highlight=

    There is conflicting schools of thought on wether to run a-dex either from the beginning or only as sides appear, tbh i'm happy to rely on swiftos advice. Hes pretty ridiculously intelligent.
    Its on swifto's advice that i decided to run a preventative dose of arimidex. If you want to take that up with him.. christ.. god help you.


    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
    I advise Aromasin at 10mg/ED or EOD, depending on the total dose of aromotasable compounds and how prone to estrogenic sides the user is.

    Prevention is better than treatment in my book. The key is to keep estrogen in normal ranges, not destroy it.

    Sometimes a DHT based AAS will suffice.

    Quote Originally Posted by flexandex View Post
    Not everyone is as arogant and hard headed as you are, my friend.

    The drawbacks to taking a small dose of a-dex are very small. A good percentage of AAS users follow the protocol of a preventative dose - is it really mindblowing that there is more than one school of thought on the matter?
    Atleast you learnt something in this thread eh? A small dose of a-dex as a preventative measure is a perfectly acceptable option.
    Your correct.

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