First cycle, test deca questions?!

[Far from massive]

You really need to do a lot of reading before starting any cycle. While I could post up what is wrong and what you need to change, you would still be very ignorant on AAS and that's not a good thing. This is not meant as a flame, the use of AAS is very complex and the improper use of AAS can indeed be very dangerous and lead to irreversable health consquences.

Simply telling you what to change would be like if you said you had a funny car and you were going to make a pass this weekend in your shorts and tennis shoes. Sure I could tell you you need a fire suit and driving boots but you would still be very ill equipped to make a pass. The same holds true of AAS usage its simply not something where you can get a short set of instructions and take off running.

[ensonisdaman1]

You really need to do a lot of reading before starting any cycle. While I could post up what is wrong and what you need to change, you would still be very ignorant on AAS and that's not a good thing. This is not meant as a flame, the use of AAS is very complex and the improper use of AAS can indeed be very dangerous and lead to irreversable health consquences.

Simply telling you what to change would be like if you said you had a funny car and you were going to make a pass this weekend in your shorts and tennis shoes. Sure I could tell you you need a fire suit and driving boots but you would still be very ill equipped to make a pass. The same holds true of AAS usage its simply not something where you can get a short set of instructions and take off running.

give me a ****ing break. i have done plenty of reading on the subject. everyone is different you faggot tool. you dont even know what you are talking about. what are your credentials that make you so great other than being on a forum and making a lot of shitty posts


**** you

[scobbs]

give me a ****ing break. i have done plenty of reading on the subject. everyone is different you faggot tool. you dont even know what you are talking about. what are your credentials that make you so great other than being on a forum and making a lot of shitty posts


**** you

hahahaha gd 4 u...i'm not an expert on test/deca so i cant give you any advice soz.
i do think its pretty hypocritical though to have a forum for the purpose of giving advice to users of juice then deny them the advice they need because of age, if they are on this forum they are most likely 100% going to cycle regardless what anyone says.
not advising them at all is going to fu**k them up more then telling them the right way

[Noles12]

hahahaha gd 4 u...i'm not an expert on test/deca so i cant give you any advice soz.
i do think its pretty hypocritical though to have a forum for the purpose of giving advice to users of juice then deny them the advice they need because of age, if they are on this forum they are most likely 100% going to cycle regardless what anyone says.
not advising them at all is going to fu**k them up more then telling them the right way

And to this you are so far off. Why would I give advise to someone that i feel is potentially dangerous. To make them feel better?

It like if a guy says what is the best way to kill myself and you say well he's gonna do it anyways so i might as well tell him how rather than convince him not to

[scobbs]

And to this you are so far off. Why would I give advise to someone that i feel is potentially dangerous. To make them feel better?

It like if a guy says what is the best way to kill myself and you say well he's gonna do it anyways so i might as well tell him how rather than convince him not to

your not making them feel better your correcting them possibly saving them from further damage.

ahha are you actually comparing using juice to suicide is this a joke ???

There are no forums/websites on Euthanasia in (AUs) not sure bout US, for that reason.

And I find it hard to believe you could convince anyone not to do juice on a forum regardless of how many posts/links to studies in the end they are most likely going to do it no matter what you say.

[Noles12]

your not making them feel better your correcting them possibly saving them from further damage.

ahha are you actually comparing using juice to suicide is this a joke ???

There are no forums/websites on Euthanasia in (AUs) not sure bout US, for that reason.

And I find it hard to believe you could convince anyone not to do juice on a forum regardless of how many posts/links to studies in the end they are most likely going to do it no matter what you say.

Spemd time here and you will see some people listen to advice from others with experience. Many guys have decided to wait. It is ignorance and disregard for your own health to otherwise. Every forum i am apart of stresses the need to wait. There is science behind it. It can stunt your growth and have adverse effects on your development of the HPTA.

It can cause one to stop producing testosterone naturally therefore causing them to have to start TRT as young as 20 years old. I state these things from experience and accounts from others personal experience.

Since you know the drugs and the persons using thems body better than anyone else here why dont you show proof on why it is ok

[scobbs]

Spemd time here and you will see some people listen to advice from others with experience. Many guys have decided to wait. It is ignorance and disregard for your own health to otherwise. Every forum i am apart of stresses the need to wait. There is science behind it. It can stunt your growth and have adverse effects on your development of the HPTA.

It can cause one to stop producing testosterone naturally therefore causing them to have to start TRT as young as 20 years old. I state these things from experience and accounts from others personal experience.

Since you know the drugs and the persons using thems body better than anyone else here why dont you show proof on why it is ok

sorry i couldnt understand your last sentence up to " why dont you show proof on why it is ok" tell me in my posts where i have said it is okay first?

I ahve said it is pretty hypocritical not to advise juice users when they are going to use gear regardless thats all i never said it was ok to use or not to use did i?

[Noles12]

give me a ****ing break. i have done plenty of reading on the subject. everyone is different you faggot tool. you dont even know what you are talking about. what are your credentials that make you so great other than being on a forum and making a lot of shitty posts


**** you

Please read the rules on flaming. It is not tolerated here.

Now then to your cycle. The cycle you have proposed is horrible and shows a lack of much time spent researching.

IMO a first cycle should be Test only. This is because if you run into side effects you know which compound they are coming from. Say you ran test and deca and started to experience gyno, you wouldnt know which is causing it so you wouldnt be able to take the proper action in reversing it.

Therefore i think Test at 300-500 mgs/week is best. You have to realize (if you had researched you would) that long estered test will take more than 2 weeks to start noticing strength gains.

What is your proposed PCT by thew way