which steroids do you have no interest in ever trying?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 02-10-2011, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by dec11

thats just ignorance, how can you quantify something you've not tried?
these compounds can have different effects on different ppl.
im guessing you're quite young?

wtf is wrong with you? reading hundreds of user experiences along with profiles on various sites means I should still try things I don't like based on what I read? oh ok I'll go ahead and try cheque drops then. Ya know, just to give it a try

Originally Posted by dec11

you cant knock something till youve tried it.
take my last compound for example, slin. now i was afraid of trying it for a long time due to the press it gets. im finishing up on it today and the only big side i got was muscles.
another guy on here logged an oral tren run, he loved it!
some say eq is shit, some say its brilliant!
i was afraid of both adrol and tren, guess what? virtually sideless for me!
you could do oral tren and it could be the best run you've ever had
thts my point, you dont know till you try

not everyone wants to try everything. If a particular steroid works for someone, why should he force himself to switch to something else just to say he tried it? Makes no sense. People have goals that have to do with their bodies, not trying to collect all the gear they can get to give them experimental runs

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 02-10-2011, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

come on Dec.. how can you quantify something you haven't tried?? you are telling me you have to try something to determine whether you would want to do it or not?? I have read enough about oral tren not to ever want to try it.. does that make me ignorant??

I do disagree with Alphadog's assumptions about EQ though.. it is a great steroid from what i have seen amongst my friends.

yea I mean the thing is we all have different goals. I could do without adding all this extra gear and spend money with EQ when I don't really care much about the stamina increase. I know for some it works well, but I can use other things that accomplish my goals in a shorter duration of time (due to the long ester) that also give me benefits I actually am looking for. Would I like to benefit from EQ's vascular and hardening ability? of course! But I can also get that from other compounds as well. It's just personal preference really. The only gear I've ever used has been dbol, test prop, and npp (and DNP too)

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

wtf is wrong with you? reading hundreds of user experiences along with profiles on various sites means I should still try things I don't like based on what I read? oh ok I'll go ahead and try cheque drops then. Ya know, just to give it a try

not everyone wants to try everything. If a particular steroid works for someone, why should he force himself to switch to something else just to say he tried it? Makes no sense. People have goals that have to do with their bodies, not trying to collect all the gear they can get to give them experimental runs

if you're gona be an arsey kid, then fair enough. your arguement is akin to 'jump of a cliff cos your mate does it'

**nelly** · 02-10-2011, 02:57 PM

Please don't flame me for this question, but are alot of folks here dead set against deca? Does it not build good muscle when compounded with a test base?

**Hazard** · 02-10-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by nelly

Please don't flame me for this question, but are alot of folks here dead set against deca? Does it not build good muscle when compounded with a test base?

I used it in the past and have found that I am a bit 19nor gyno prone. It's not worth taking deca..... I get more size from tren so if i'm going to go the 19nor route..... tren it is. On top of the size..... tren hardens me up...... it's a win win.

~Haz~

**MaNiCC** · 02-10-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by red barraca

(methyltrienolone)Oral tren.

This

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I used it in the past and have found that I am a bit 19nor gyno prone. It's not worth taking deca..... I get more size from tren so if i'm going to go the 19nor route..... tren it is. On top of the size..... tren hardens me up...... it's a win win.

~Haz~

^^^^ x2

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 02-10-2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

if you're gona be an arsey kid, then fair enough. your arguement is akin to 'jump of a cliff cos your mate does it'

you started it by telling me I am probably very young, a very insulting thing to say to someone on here that has over a thousand posts. I take AAS to build the body I want, not to simply try compound after compound so I can report back to everyone that wants to know about them.

Originally Posted by nelly

Please don't flame me for this question, but are alot of folks here dead set against deca? Does it not build good muscle when compounded with a test base?

I took NPP with test-prop and I have to say I liked it a lot. I'll use it again

**nelly** · 02-10-2011, 03:20 PM

Thank you gentlemen. Ask questions and you get answers. Live to learn.

**layeazy** · 02-10-2011, 03:20 PM

Try what i can and what gets decent reviews and gains from the blogs..

**MACHINE5150** · 02-10-2011, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by nelly

Please don't flame me for this question, but are alot of folks here dead set against deca? Does it not build good muscle when compounded with a test base?

i did some norma deca my first cycle and absolutley loved it.. did some sh!t from pakistan my last cycle and it either didn't work or wsa fake.. not sure really.. But the Norma Deca was amazing, i got no sides from it.. It is a steroid that takes for fvcking ever to really kick in though, and i will not be using it again as there are much better compounds out there than deca... now that i am 245-250lbs i don't want to "balloon" up any more..

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

you started it by telling me I am probably very young, a very insulting thing to say to someone on here that has over a thousand posts. I take AAS to build the body I want, not to simply try compound after compound so I can report back to everyone that wants to know about them.

I took NPP with test-prop and I have to say I liked it a lot. I'll use it again

and? whats tht gotta do with age?
if someone buys a bmw and says its shite does that mean no one else should buy one.
point is you dont have to judge something by other ppl's experiences, thts why i enquired about your age.
you say you want to build the body you want, dont all aas build muscle utimately?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 02-10-2011, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

and? whats tht gotta do with age?
if someone buys a bmw and says its shite does that mean no one else should buy one.
point is you dont have to judge something by other ppl's experiences, thts why i enquired about your age.
you say you want to build the body you want, dont all aas build muscle utimately?

yes, but some do more than others. Suppose someone loves tren. Why should he spend 2-3x as much on anavar when he would probably get better results on tren according to what he has researched? Then say he does go with the anavar instead and doesn't like it. Then he just wasted all this time trying something new and cycling off/pct when he could have built a better body by just using tren instead? It's a long delay that didn't need to happen

**Matt** · 02-10-2011, 03:40 PM

If its free i'll try it........

Used most compounds and tren is by far the best, if only it had no sides.....

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

yes, but some do more than others. Suppose someone loves tren. Why should he spend 2-3x as much on anavar when he would probably get better results on tren according to what he has researched?

that,to me, is more of a case of how quick and how much you want as opposed to not trying something out.
not trying to argue with ya, sorry if came across badly.
when i started out i always said, i'll just stick to test, some of the rest sound to heavy/risky by what ive read. then slowly i started trying other things and found they didnt affect me half as bad as what others had said.
i bought a rare italian sports coupe, alot of petrolheads told me id regret it and it'd give me serious grief, my old vw golf and mitsi fto let me down more! if i'd of listened and not bought it i'd be missing out on some great driver experiences. ya get me?

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

If its free i'll try it........

Used most compounds and tren is by far the best, if only it had no sides.....

i was shit scared of the stuff, the only side i had was alittle more sweating during training, so fookin glad i tried it though and cant wait to get on it again!!

**Pac Man** · 02-10-2011, 03:47 PM

Man, you guys are crazy. I love eq.

Wont do:
most orals
Dnp
igf1
Clen

That's all I can think of

**Matt** · 02-10-2011, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

i was shit scared of the stuff, the only side i had was alittle more sweating during training, so fookin glad i tried it though and cant wait to get on it again!!

Yeah its amazing how it effects people in different ways...

The last couple of cycles ive run tren a and cut my cycle short, i get mild gyno and nolva sorts that but i dont sleep a wink whilst im on it lol and after 4/5 weeks of not sleeping i just give in.......

**Matt** · 02-10-2011, 03:50 PM

Orals really dont bother me, a binge drinker will be doing far more damage....

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Matt

Yeah its amazing how it effects people in different ways...

The last couple of cycles ive run tren a and cut my cycle short, i get mild gyno and nolva sorts that but i dont sleep a wink whilst im on it lol and after 4/5 weeks of not sleeping i just give in.......

nytol one a night, works wonders. yeah it gave me gyno aswell but nolva sorted it pronto

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 02-10-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

that,to me, is more of a case of how quick and how much you want as opposed to not trying something out.
not trying to argue with ya, sorry if came across badly.
when i started out i always said, i'll just stick to test, some of the rest sound to heavy/risky by what ive read. then slowly i started trying other things and found they didnt affect me half as bad as what others had said.
i bought a rare italian sports coupe, alot of petrolheads told me id regret it and it'd give me serious grief, my old vw golf and mitsi fto let me down more! if i'd of listened and not bought it i'd be missing out on some great driver experiences. ya get me?

it's all good man. I get your point. We can agree to disagree on this one

**baseline_9** · 02-10-2011, 03:54 PM

I wouldnt do

primo because of the cost even to brew it
anadrol because i dont see the need TBH
Any of those stupid PH's that are pointless and harsh on the sides

Ive only ran Test E, Test P and Dbol

I like the prop and dbol better than the enth

I plan to stick to shorter cycles, short esters, pin ED

What am i looking forward to trying....Hmmmmmm

Test P + Tren A.........

From what I have heard that is all you really need to reach ur full potential... (except good GH)

Throw in some Mast P and Winni and you have a nice cycle to run for a contest prep.

**Ernst** · 02-10-2011, 04:22 PM

Oral tren, halotestin, primo, cheque drops, test suspension, any injectable oral.

Halo, cheque drops, and MT I don't think are worth it; for my goals, anyway. Others like test suspension and injectable orals... I hate shots, so those are not on my list at all!

There's a lot of stuff floating around out there too that there's not that much info or feedback on. I wouldn't touch any of that stuff until I knew it backwards and forwards and had heard some first-hand experiences from people I trust.

I'm surprised to see so many people hating on anadrol. It's my favorite next to test.

**big_ron** · 02-10-2011, 04:43 PM

Testosterone, dont wanna try it

**SMcB** · 02-10-2011, 05:03 PM

What is this 'oral tren' some of you are referring to? Is this the same stuff as the Xtreme Tren by American Cellular Labs?

**dec11** · 02-10-2011, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by SMcB

What is this 'oral tren' some of you are referring to? Is this the same stuff as the Xtreme Tren by American Cellular Labs?

no, thts a PH. oral tren is what it says on the label, the tab version of trenbolone

**SMcB** · 02-10-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by dec11

no, thts a PH. oral tren is what it says on the label, the tab version of trenbolone

I talked to a guy a while back that said the Xtreme Tren was like an oral version of Parabolin/Trenbolone. When I tried to look into it, it actually seemed to me that the Xtreme Tren ingredient (19-nor) was closer in chemical structure to Deca. Xtreme Tren was the first steroid I have ever taken and although I have never taken Deca, I know what it's side effects are and the Xtreme Tren had similar effects (good strength gains, hardcore shutdown/deca-dick). Fortunately I only had one bottle so I could only be on it for about 5 weeks. Don't even want to know what kind of damage I could have done had I stayed on that stuff any longer!

**HALTEH** · 02-10-2011, 05:25 PM

Not a steroid, but insulin. Shit scares me to death just from reading about peoples experiences with it.

**SMcB** · 02-10-2011, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by HALTEH

Not a steroid, but insulin. Shit scares me to death just from reading about peoples experiences with it.

What kind of experiences have you read about? I'm actually considering using this stuff. It's kinda sad, but I fear embarassing steroid sides (hair loss, shrunken balls, gyno) more than I do insulin sides (go into a coma and die). lol

**HALTEH** · 02-10-2011, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by SMcB

What kind of experiences have you read about? I'm actually considering using this stuff. It's kinda sad, but I fear embarassing steroid sides (hair loss, shrunken balls, gyno) more than I do insulin sides (go into a coma and die). lol

Lol, I wouldn't reccomend using insulin until you've had quite a bit of experience with AAS. shit, I'd even reccomend HGH and IGF-1 before using Slin. Some might disagree, but that's just me.

There's a lot more you gotta be careful with when using insulin, bro. Getting the proper dose into you is HUGEEEE. Any mess up could literally cause death within minutes. Diet has to be basically perfect.

Don't get me wrong .. it fkn works, and very well so when put together with AAS and HGH, but again, just be careful.

Read this: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...rofile-Insulin

**gymnerd** · 02-10-2011, 06:49 PM

I agree with Dec. I really think its hard for someone to get a good idea abt a compound from the internet. For instance EQ seems like gets alot of neg reviews on here but when I started asking ppl what abt it they didnt like what I found out was more than half never evenm used it and were going by what someone else said.

Only things I am against trying are things that will put my health too much at risk

**hankdiesel** · 02-10-2011, 07:45 PM

I've had good results with deca. I have no interest in ever trying test suspension. Test/tren is the best combo

**layeazy** · 02-10-2011, 08:37 PM

Me stay away from sythnol for sure i keen to try tren..

**Berserker88** · 02-10-2011, 11:34 PM

Wouldnt do

Deca - libido/not great for strength compared to other drugs
var - to expensive
EQ - seems like a waste of money from what most people say

For those that havent tried anadrol because of risk of sides etc, personally i didnt get any sides and got amazing gains, cant wait to do it again!

**Noles12** · 02-10-2011, 11:40 PM

I will agree some AAS gets a bad rap from people on forums alone, most of who are just parroting what they heard. I like to see how i respond to something, thats why earlier i listed ones i wouldnt do again rather than ones i dont want to try.

I have a real love hate relationship with tren. Its great for gains but emotionally it fvcks with me. I have a much shorter fuse. I also get no sleep, oilier skin, increased hair growth, and bad sweating. But i always go back to it.

**SirLiftALOT** · 02-10-2011, 11:48 PM

1. Oral tren
2. Winstrol ( just because the name doesnt look cool and intimidating enough )
3. Anadrol

**n00bs** · 02-11-2011, 12:03 AM

Why is everyone so against deca?

**baseline_9** · 02-11-2011, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by n00bs

Why is everyone so against deca?

Probably because its a 19nor and people would rather just run tren

If u are going to be supressing ur self so harshly u may as well get the most out of it

Maybe thats what people think, IDK

**jimmyinkedup** · 02-11-2011, 01:21 AM

Have tried most.
Wont try:
tbol
Methyltren

A few i wouldnt ever use again...but thats my wont try list

**Tigershark** · 02-11-2011, 02:43 AM

Deca. Never again.

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