whats wrong with test only cycles for advanced users ?

[dec11]

Problem with test only is, that eventhough it seems to work like a charm for some - there is many of us who don't get that much from test only unless the dosage is HIGH, and that brings out big side effects too.

I know lots of guys who could do an 500mg/w or 750mg test cycle and all they get is little bit of more "ripped" look maybe, and they are sweating big time and looking flushed, 24hours a day. But when they add some anabolic compound to it, together it works nicely!

I do see test only as an necessary drug to keep libido and stuff working while taking some anabolics to gain, I would never do it alone unless the dosage would be 750-1000mg/w but in that case the side effects would kill me.

if they are taking it to bulk then they arent eating enough

[Redial]

if they are taking it to bulk then they arent eating enough

I mean compared to anabolic compounds, test has great benefits in "fat loss", and body outlook but I don't see it as a huge mass gainer - except the water weight that specially longer esters cause big time.

And yes, I know no steroid itself causes fat loss, but I claim that test and in example anavar are drugs that do change your muscle/fat ratio somehow, or at least it looks like it when you're on cycle.

After all, I think test should be always be taken with some anabolic, oral or injectable. I'd prefer mild anabolic only over test-only.

[songdog]

I do good at 400 and I ran 750 once.Why I dont know.