equipoise opinions

[Far from massive]

Damn never seen a thread with cheese puffs, potato chips, ciggarettes, and tren in a teashirt sleeve.


PS I heard Ponyboy used equipose to get jacked and vascular for the movie the outsiders....

[awms]

Eq is not useless at all! in fact its a great compound to use if you suffer from joint problems or tendonitis because it increases collagen production by 200-300%...were as test actually decrease collagen production.

I think the problem is that most people either dont take a high enouph dose or they do not run it long enouph...it doesnt kick in until about week 9 or 10. Also the gains are all solid with very light water so no you wont throw on 25lbs in a month but you will keep alot more of your gains once you come off of eq.

I will be honest I have never used eq before but I think for people running longer cycles who are worried about side effects or joint problems it is a great compound! or perhaps a compound somone could use pre contest instead of test to keep bloat down since it is very anabolic!

[runner39]

awms, sorry to but on on your conversation but do you think eq would help me? I am a distance runner and i got hit by a car while running nearly a year ago and i am looking for somthing to help rebuild the muscle i lost and help my joints.

Eq is not useless at all! in fact its a great compound to use if you suffer from joint problems or tendonitis because it increases collagen production by 200-300%...were as test actually decrease collagen production.

I think the problem is that most people either dont take a high enouph dose or they do not run it long enouph...it doesnt kick in until about week 9 or 10. Also the gains are all solid with very light water so no you wont throw on 25lbs in a month but you will keep alot more of your gains once you come off of eq.

I will be honest I have never used eq before but I think for people running longer cycles who are worried about side effects or joint problems it is a great compound! or perhaps a compound somone could use pre contest instead of test to keep bloat down since it is very anabolic!

[amcon]

no please research the drug...

what you want is test and deca... research why that woudl be the right combo for you

i say that with 6 years of professional cycle(pedal bikes) experence and being hit by cars several times...

[Hazard]

Eq is not useless at all! in fact its a great compound to use if you suffer from joint problems or tendonitis because it increases collagen production by 200-300%...were as test actually decrease collagen production.

I think the problem is that most people either dont take a high enouph dose or they do not run it long enouph...it doesnt kick in until about week 9 or 10. Also the gains are all solid with very light water so no you wont throw on 25lbs in a month but you will keep alot more of your gains once you come off of eq.

Nope..... I've done 1000mg's/wk for 12+ weeks and it was worthless. Maybe not for everyone..... but for me..... it's worthless.

I will be honest I have never used eq before but I think for people running longer cycles who are worried about side effects or joint problems it is a great compound! or perhaps a compound somone could use pre contest instead of test to keep bloat down since it is very anabolic!

There's your problem..... You have ZERO personal experience with something that you are trying to talk about. If you want to post studies..... post em. If you have real life experience..... list it. Some things look great on paper but don't translate into real life results. Other things test great in animals...... but when used in a human application - shit fails or doesn't work. NOBODY runs EQ by itself..... it's always with other compounds. To get a TRUE reading of what EQ can do for you..... run 600mg's/wk with no test and get blood work done while on it.

Also..... why not just run test prop for the contest like most guys? I wouldn't want to run eq/tren/mast without test......

~Haz~

[amcon]

Nope..... I've done 1000mg's/wk for 12+ weeks and it was worthless. Maybe not for everyone..... but for me..... it's worthless.



There's your problem..... You have ZERO personal experience with something that you are trying to talk about. If you want to post studies..... post em. If you have real life experience..... list it. Some things look great on paper but don't translate into real life results. Other things test great in animals...... but when used in a human application - shit fails or doesn't work. NOBODY runs EQ by itself..... it's always with other compounds. To get a TRUE reading of what EQ can do for you..... run 600mg's/wk with no test and get blood work done while on it.

Also..... why not just run test prop for the contest like most guys? I wouldn't want to run eq/tren/mast without test......

~Haz~

hate to say i told ya so but quality ppl saying quality things ... well said haz not just cuz you are agreeing with me - your just stating the truth

[awms]

Nope..... I've done 1000mg's/wk for 12+ weeks and it was worthless. Maybe not for everyone..... but for me..... it's worthless.



There's your problem..... You have ZERO personal experience with something that you are trying to talk about. If you want to post studies..... post em. If you have real life experience..... list it. Some things look great on paper but don't translate into real life results. Other things test great in animals...... but when used in a human application - shit fails or doesn't work. NOBODY runs EQ by itself..... it's always with other compounds. To get a TRUE reading of what EQ can do for you..... run 600mg's/wk with no test and get blood work done while on it.

Also..... why not just run test prop for the contest like most guys? I wouldn't want to run eq/tren/mast without test......

~Haz~

I dont need experience to know eq increases collagen synthesis. There are alot of guys who have tired alot of diffrent compounds who still dont know as much as they let on....my knowledge is based my comprehension of how each compound works which is much better then alot of guys in here seeing as I am a kin major and I can understand the science behind how a hormone works with in the body.

IMO Eq is a great coupound for what its meant to do...its not a mass builder but is very anabolic! and is great for the joints. Add a little test and its a great cycle for those people who have bad joints and are prone to sides.

[amcon]

I dont need experience to know eq increases collagen synthesis. There are alot of guys who have tired alot of diffrent compounds who still dont know as much as they let on....my knowledge is based my comprehension of how each compound works which is much better then alot of guys in here seeing as I am a kin major and I can understand the science behind how a hormone works with in the body.

IMO Eq is a great coupound for what its meant to do...its not a mass builder but is very anabolic! and is great for the joints. Add a little test and its a great cycle for those people who have bad joints and are prone to sides.

kin major (--- here is your prob, you have a clinical view of this not a realistic view. that explains it all - your age and your comments all add up.

[cro]

i agree with this somewhat i ran a real low dose of 300 mg eq/300 mg test e and my tennis elbow was killing up till half way through cycle now i have no pain so something worked hopefully.i was happy with this cycle as a first.but as some stated results could be from test alone.

I dont need experience to know eq increases collagen synthesis. There are alot of guys who have tired alot of diffrent compounds who still dont know as much as they let on....my knowledge is based my comprehension of how each compound works which is much better then alot of guys in here seeing as I am a kin major and I can understand the science behind how a hormone works with in the body.

IMO Eq is a great coupound for what its meant to do...its not a mass builder but is very anabolic! and is great for the joints. Add a little test and its a great cycle for those people who have bad joints and are prone to sides.

[Hazard]

I dont need experience to know eq increases collagen synthesis. There are alot of guys who have tired alot of diffrent compounds who still dont know as much as they let on....my knowledge is based my comprehension of how each compound works which is much better then alot of guys in here seeing as I am a kin major and I can understand the science behind how a hormone works with in the body.

IMO Eq is a great coupound for what its meant to do...its not a mass builder but is very anabolic! and is great for the joints. Add a little test and its a great cycle for those people who have bad joints and are prone to sides.

I do respect your opinion...... but i've tried to seach for any study showing Eq helps the joints/tendons and I came up empty handed. All I found was an unpublished article claiming that EQ can increase collagen synthesis but not crosslinking connectivity....... similar to winstrol. What this means is that while the tendon grows and gets larger..... it becomes brittle or frail. If you have anything showing that it helps the joints - i'd like to read it.

I just don't get why somebody would want to use a high dosage of a compound for a long period of time when anavar does the same thing (according to broscience) albeit adds more mass and is not immunosuppressive. I can understand not wanting to take a 19-nor..... and I suppose maybe the cost of anavar would be the main reason not to use it. Then again..... if you are just looking for tendon/joint health then anavar wouldn't need to be run at higher dosages.

~Haz~

[gtgb]

Ive definatly gone off the idea of Eq since i started this thread and also other research. This is only my second cycle, and im just guna stick to test only now, had great results from the first one.. So i cant see why i wouldnt again?

500mg Of SUS PW - pinned twice a week.

Nice clean diet and train hard. I reckon it will be a winner,

dont see the need to add another compound on my second course any more, would you guys agree?

[Hazard]

Ive definatly gone off the idea of Eq since i started this thread and also other research. This is only my second cycle, and im just guna stick to test only now, had great results from the first one.. So i cant see why i wouldnt again?

500mg Of SUS PW - pinned twice a week.

Nice clean diet and train hard. I reckon it will be a winner,

dont see the need to add another compound on my second course any more, would you guys agree?

As long as your diet it up to par you should still make nice gains for sure.....

~Haz~

[marcus300]

Ive definatly gone off the idea of Eq since i started this thread and also other research. This is only my second cycle, and im just guna stick to test only now, had great results from the first one.. So i cant see why i wouldnt again?

500mg Of SUS PW - pinned twice a week.

Nice clean diet and train hard. I reckon it will be a winner,

dont see the need to add another compound on my second course any more, would you guys agree?

What are your stats and cycle histroy?
how long have you been training?

[BJJ]

i do respect your opinion...... But i've tried to seach for any study showing eq helps the joints/tendons and i came up empty handed. All i found was an unpublished article claiming that eq can increase collagen synthesis but not crosslinking connectivity....... Similar to winstrol. What this means is that while the tendon grows and gets larger..... It becomes brittle or frail. If you have anything showing that it helps the joints - i'd like to read it.

I just don't get why somebody would want to use a high dosage of a compound for a long period of time when anavar does the same thing (according to broscience) albeit adds more mass and is not immunosuppressive. I can understand not wanting to take a 19-nor..... And i suppose maybe the cost of anavar would be the main reason not to use it. Then again..... If you are just looking for tendon/joint health then anavar wouldn't need to be run at higher dosages.

~haz~

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[amcon]

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Eq is not useless at all!AGREED, OF COARSE IT IS NOT, IT IS JUST NOT A GREAT CHOICE FOR MOST PPL AND NOT FOR THE OP. in fact its a great compound to use if you suffer from joint problems or tendonitis because it increases collagen production by 200-300% NEVER HEARD OF ANY ONE USING IT FOR THAT...were as test actually decrease collagen production.

I think the problem is that most people either dont take a high enouGh dose or they do not run it long enouph...it doesnt kick in until about week 9 or 10.THat IS THE POINT THAT THE PPL ARE SAYING HERE THAT MEANS IT IS EXPENISIVE FOR THE FINAL RESULTS, OTHER DRUGS WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE FIRST, OR EVER SECOND OR THIRD. Also the gains are all solid with very light water so no you wont throw on 25lbs in a month but you will keep alot more of your gains once you come off of eq. GOOD USE ANAVAR THEN, A GOOD REASON TO USE EQ WOULD BE DURING A BULKING CYCLE TO RETAIN MORE NITROGEN, HELPING TO USE PROTEIN, (SAYING THIS ALL FROM MEMORY)

I will be honest I have never used eq before but I think for people running longer cycles who are worried about side effects or joint problems it is a great compound! or perhaps a compound somone could use pre contest instead of test to keep bloat down since it is very anabolic!I WILL JUST SAY THAT AFTER USING EQ I REALLY FELT THAT I WASTED MONEY AND THE BEST ADVISE I COULD GIVE IS NOT TO USE IT... OR TAKE IT CORRECTLY AND YOU GIVE YOU OP

awms... i agree the profile on the drug sounds promising but my self and other have not found that to be as promising as hoped

[hankdiesel]

Eq is not useless at all! in fact its a great compound to use if you suffer from joint problems or tendonitis because it increases collagen production by 200-300%...were as test actually decrease collagen production.

I think the problem is that most people either dont take a high enouph dose or they do not run it long enouph...it doesnt kick in until about week 9 or 10. Also the gains are all solid with very light water so no you wont throw on 25lbs in a month but you will keep alot more of your gains once you come off of eq.

I will be honest I have never used eq before but I think for people running longer cycles who are worried about side effects or joint problems it is a great compound! or perhaps a compound somone could use pre contest instead of test to keep bloat down since it is very anabolic!

tell us how great it is AFTER you use it

[amcon]

lol... hehehhe

[goinglong]

LMFAO! Good one, FFM.

Damn never seen a thread with cheese puffs, potato chips, ciggarettes, and tren in a teashirt sleeve.


PS I heard Ponyboy used equipose to get jacked and vascular for the movie the outsiders....

[goinglong]

To the OP: I'm running EQ at 500/wk and test C at 400/wk but my goals are not like most of the people on this board who try to build strength and mass. I'm looking for endurance and strength without the large quantity of mass gained and I'm pretty happy so far. That is just me, though.