What's a good base to start cycle from?

[dec11]

So, you aren't going to cycle for several years, but you want to get your ducks in a row now and figure out your exact plan? I wish I had the ability to plan that far ahead. I won't even commit to going shopping with my wife at 1:00 today.

yeah, a good few of these kids are going in with the 'im only researching' angle, its bullshit im personally not falling for. my guess is that its kids that have already been told/banned and have re-joined

[Gucks]

yeah, a good few of these kids are going in with the 'im only researching' angle, its bullshit im personally not falling for. my guess is that its kids that have already been told/banned and have re-joined

lol, no. im not trying any angle. if i wanted advice for cycle then i wuld just come out and ask 4 it. i know plenty of guys in my gym who cycle, i have no problewm geting roids but im not an idiot. im only 18 and 174 ibs! been told not to plenty of times before. i guess ill ask wen i think i am ready 2 cycle then :P but is 200ibs a good goal for natty?

[dec11]

lol, no. im not trying any angle. if i wanted advice for cycle then i wuld just come out and ask 4 it. i know plenty of guys in my gym who cycle, i have no problewm geting roids but im not an idiot. im only 18 and 174 ibs! been told not to plenty of times before. i guess ill ask wen i think i am ready 2 cycle then :P but is 200ibs a good goal for natty?

200 is a good aim, if you want to educate yourself on aas, theres plenty of info on this site, use your eyes rather than your fingers on the keyboard

[Gucks]

200 is a good aim, if you want to educate yourself on aas, theres plenty of info on this site, use your eyes rather than your fingers on the keyboard

ye, ive read as much as i can on here and from talking 2 guys with experience. just wanted 2 throw some feelers out 2 see if i was being realistic or not. thanks very much. hopefully i can make 200 in about 18 months

[dec11]

ye, ive read as much as i can on here and from talking 2 guys with experience. just wanted 2 throw some feelers out 2 see if i was being realistic or not. thanks very much. hopefully i can make 200 in about 18 months

woah there kiddo, i didnt mean start when 200lb, start at 25yrs old minimum and not at all if you are still gaining then (which, if you ask me, anyone can), i gained up until 31yrs old naturally and still prob could have gained more

[Gucks]

woah there kiddo, i didnt mean start when 200lb, start at 25yrs old minimum and not at all if you are still gaining then (which, if you ask me, anyone can), i gained up until 31yrs old naturally and still prob could have gained more

lol, sorry. misunderstood. and can i ask wht weight u were wen u started then?

[dec11]

lol, sorry. misunderstood. and can i ask wht weight u were wen u started then?

i was a massive 9st at age 17 when i started.

where do you train in dublin?

[tjax03]

200 is a good aim, if you want to educate yourself on aas, theres plenty of info on this site, use your eyes rather than your fingers on the keyboard

200 would be a decent base if he was 6 feet tall or so, but he's 6'3. One can estimate that between two men, one at 5'10 and one at 6'0, each with equal percentages of lean mass etc. there should be about a 20 pound weight difference between the two. So 200 pounds at 6'3 would appear similar to a 5'11 man who weighs 160. Very small. I think for someone of that height a weight of 220 could easily be reached naturally.

[Gucks]

200 would be a decent base if he was 6 feet tall or so, but he's 6'3. One can estimate that between two men, one at 5'10 and one at 6'0, each with equal percentages of lean mass etc. there should be about a 20 pound weight difference between the two. So 200 pounds at 6'3 would appear similar to a 5'11 man who weighs 160. Very small. I think for someone of that height a weight of 220 could easily be reached naturally.

220..? mhm, maybe. i was of the opinion that 210 at about 8% bf wuld be my natty limit. let me know if any1 disagrees

[yungone501]

220..? mhm, maybe. i was of the opinion that 210 at about 8% bf wuld be my natty limit. let me know if any1 disagrees

For others to better critique, it might be best to post a few pics. That way we all get an idea of your structure. You could have two 6' 200 men standing right beside each other and look completely different...even with the same bf%. Bone structure has alot to do with 'what looks good'. Im about 5'8" but have really small bones so appear to have much more muscularity then others of my stats, you know?

[Gucks]

For others to better critique, it might be best to post a few pics. That way we all get an idea of your structure. You could have two 6' 200 men standing right beside each other and look completely different...even with the same bf%. Bone structure has alot to do with 'what looks good'. Im about 5'8" but have really small bones so appear to have much more muscularity then others of my stats, you know?

ye i get u on the bone structure. ill see what i can do about the pics! get my girl 2 take them lol. the best i can do 4 u atm is 16" arms, 46" chest 32" waist, 20" thighs, 14" calves (my legs and calves r worst body parts, they really get to me!)

give me a day or two 2 get pics, im doing exams atm.

[dec11]

200 would be a decent base if he was 6 feet tall or so, but he's 6'3. One can estimate that between two men, one at 5'10 and one at 6'0, each with equal percentages of lean mass etc. there should be about a 20 pound weight difference between the two. So 200 pounds at 6'3 would appear similar to a 5'11 man who weighs 160. Very small. I think for someone of that height a weight of 220 could easily be reached naturally.

rubbish interpretation, how do you know what length the torso could be or the legs?

[tjax03]

rubbish interpretation, how do you know what length the torso could be or the legs?

You really shouldn't be so hasty to dismiss others thoughts. The ten pounds per inch of height estimation is not my own creation. It is a valid estimate of body weight given height and body composition. Of course there are exceptions given that some people have freakishly long arms or legs in comparison to their torso. However if you actually give it some consideration, it works our pretty well for most people.

[Gucks]

rubbish interpretation, how do you know what length the torso could be or the legs?

im not gonna join tht diagreement im not a fan of pissing contests :P lol. i wuld agree with u dec though