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  1. #1
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    Okay, I've made a few changes. I've incorporated a meal at 10:00 and 3:30. They're not big meals; more like a snack so I don't go catabolic throughout the day. I made them small so it wouldn't interfere with my work schedule. I just scarf down the chicken breast and throw the oats in water and drink it. Please tell me what you think of the changes I made:

    meal 1
    10 egg whites
    130g oats
    p-56
    c-74
    f-12

    meal 2
    4 oz. chicken breast
    25 g oats
    p-27
    c-14
    f-3

    meal 3
    7 oz. lean minced beef
    140g brown rice
    p-53
    c-109
    f-15

    meal 4
    4 oz. chicken breast
    25g oats
    p-27
    c-14
    f-3

    meal 5
    7 oz. lean minced beef
    140g brown rice
    p-53
    c-109
    f-15

    meal 6 (PWO)
    10 egg whites (unless I can find whey here or buy it online)
    130g oats
    p-56
    c-82
    f-16

    meal 7
    7 oz. lean minced beef
    1 can green beans
    p-42
    c-0
    f-13

    daily totals:
    protein-314
    carbs-402
    fat-77
    cals-3,557
    split-35/45/19



    Too many carbs? Macros look okay? Please help! I really want to get this right! I should add that I have a hard time putting on muscle, which is why the cals are so high for my stats. Should I bring them down a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclestack View Post
    Okay, I've made a few changes. I've incorporated a meal at 10:00 and 3:30. They're not big meals; more like a snack so I don't go catabolic throughout the day. I made them small so it wouldn't interfere with my work schedule. I just scarf down the chicken breast and throw the oats in water and drink it. Please tell me what you think of the changes I made:

    meal 1
    10 egg whitesi like it! add some efa's though. not enuf fat. and dont JUST use whites, add 2 yokes in there.
    130g oats
    p-56
    c-74
    f-12

    meal 2
    4 oz. chicken breastthis a snack? its ok 4 a snakc but not enuf 4 a meal. ill assume its a snack! some more carbs i think
    25 g oats
    p-27
    c-14
    f-3

    meal 3
    7 oz. lean minced beefnice 1! ur getting the hang of this :P
    140g brown rice
    p-53
    c-109
    f-15

    meal 4
    4 oz. chicken breastanother snack? same commments as last 1. bit more carbs needed
    25g oats
    p-27
    c-14
    f-3

    meal 5
    7 oz. lean minced beefsame as b4, i like it alot
    140g brown rice
    p-53
    c-109
    f-15

    meal 6 (PWO)
    10 egg whites (unless I can find whey here or buy it online)gd PWO meal. whey is btr and more convenient then egg whites if u can get it! if not, this is pretty gd. i culdnt stomach all those oats PWO but them back a bit. maybe 75g-100g
    130g oats
    p-56
    c-82
    f-16

    meal 7
    7 oz. lean minced beefshuld have a little bit of complex carbs here, some brown bread and PB is what i use but its personla choice. as long as theres not sugar!
    1 can green beans
    p-42
    c-0
    f-13

    daily totals:
    protein-314
    carbs-402
    fat-77
    cals-3,557
    split-35/45/19pretty good. if anything a bit 2 much protein 4 ur weight. culd replace 50g of p with 50g of c.



    Too many carbs? Macros look okay? Please help! I really want to get this right! I should add that I have a hard time putting on muscle, which is why the cals are so high for my stats. Should I bring them down a bit?
    massive improvement from last diet! u forgot the times though! if ur having 7 meals they should be well spaced though so im not 2 worryed. looking good 2 go! y cant u get any supps btw?

    just a suggestion 4 the oats, on their own with water is nasty i think. i buy them ground and pt them in milk. pretty tasty! if u cant get them ground what u can do is buy a coffee bean grinder and grind them urself in the morning. not a neccessity but its much easier then chewing on whole oats like a f'ing horse...

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    Thanks, Gucks! Times for the meals are 7:30, 10:00, 1:00, 3:30, 6:00, 7:30 (PWO), and 10:00. I would like to keep protein as close to 2g per lb of body weight as possible unless you can justify a reason not to. You don't think the carbs are too high? I've never read any studies on the matter, but have heard very negative things about carbs right before bed, even when bulking.....I'm trying to stay as lean as possible during this bulk, which is why I'm asking if carbs are too high. Keep in mind that my TDEE is around 2100-2200, but I AM a hard gainer. Also, can you please check my macros for the lean minced beef (it's 93/7)??

    Thanks for all the help! Anyone else who would like to chime in, please feel free to do so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by musclestack View Post
    Thanks, Gucks! Times for the meals are 7:30, 10:00, 1:00, 3:30, 6:00, 7:30 (PWO), and 10:00. I would like to keep protein as close to 2g per lb of body weight as possible unless you can justify a reason not to. You don't think the carbs are too high? I've never read any studies on the matter, but have heard very negative things about carbs right before bed, even when bulking.....I'm trying to stay as lean as possible during this bulk, which is why I'm asking if carbs are too high. Keep in mind that my TDEE is around 2100-2200, but I AM a hard gainer. Also, can you please check my macros for the lean minced beef (it's 93/7)??

    Thanks for all the help! Anyone else who would like to chime in, please feel free to do so!
    sugar carbs b4 bed are bad, complex carbs not as much but i like 2 get some in and some fats. and as for the 2g per ib, that was started by pro bodybuilders because their reason was, they needed to get calories so clean protein is a good source of calories. honestly, i dont think anyone unless ur a serious pro on grams of test a week needs 2g per ib. i stick with 1.5g per ib. u just want 2 make sure ur body has enough at all times (hence the close meals). all excess protein just gets converted to carbs and used for energy so u can go 4 2g if u like, but its an expensive solution. i compare it to using whiskey in ur car :P it will do the job but its an expensive solution to a simple problem. personal choice though. and those times r perfect! good job m8.

    http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...roducts/6188/2 theres raw macros for 95/5 beef mince. they dont have 93/7 lol.

    1 oz is:
    38 cals
    6g p
    1g f
    0g c

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