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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    However, I have to answer your question with a question. What do you believe raising protein will do, assuming the individual is getting a sufficient amount (figure around 1.5g/lb of lean body weight)? Yes protein is least likely to be converted to fat, and is the only one that is used to build muscle. But based on what you're saying above, if a persons TDEE is 2500 and they want to eat a 3000 calorie diet to build muscle, would you recommend the surplus 500 calories come all from protein? I'm not being a smart ass, I really want to know.

    Protein by itself is pretty useless without a delivery system... in this case mainly insulin via ingestion of carbs. When I work out mass diets (lean or straight bulk), I tend to always have carbs a bit higher then protein - but again, this is all individualistic.
    Bingo. I can agree with this post 100% based on my own experiences as my diets have evolved. I used to be under the misconception that protein is simply excreted if not used and when in doubt, all extra calories beyond what was essential for energy should come from protein. When I learned the truth, I began slowly replacing some of my ridiculous protein intake (like 400g just from complete sources) with more energy sources and the simple fact is, I saw better gains. I was surely wasting a lot of my protein intake.

    Also, remember that it's calories in vs. calories out and insulin response that dictate whether or not we gain the unwanted pounds. Even with a high carb intake, if timing and food quality is on point, you simply won't be unhappy with the results. Meanwhile, your protein intake is delivered efficiently and 100% available for rebuilding lean tissue and your workouts may be performed with optimal intensity.

    Now depending on how we, individually, respond to carbohydrate intake; there's always more than one road to travel. Fats do the job pretty damn well too. Just don't fall into the myth that protein is everything like I did, sacrificing gains in the process. Sufficient protein to grow and the rest is energy. Once you have the materials you need to build a house, your labor will dictate how quickly and efficiently it gets built!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damienm05 View Post
    Bingo. I can agree with this post 100% based on my own experiences as my diets have evolved. I used to be under the misconception that protein is simply excreted if not used and when in doubt, all extra calories beyond what was essential for energy should come from protein. When I learned the truth, I began slowly replacing some of my ridiculous protein intake (like 400g just from complete sources) with more energy sources and the simple fact is, I saw better gains. I was surely wasting a lot of my protein intake.

    Also, remember that it's calories in vs. calories out and insulin response that dictate whether or not we gain the unwanted pounds. Even with a high carb intake, if timing and food quality is on point, you simply won't be unhappy with the results. Meanwhile, your protein intake is delivered efficiently and 100% available for rebuilding lean tissue and your workouts may be performed with optimal intensity.

    Now depending on how we, individually, respond to carbohydrate intake; there's always more than one road to travel. Fats do the job pretty damn well too. Just don't fall into the myth that protein is everything like I did, sacrificing gains in the process. Sufficient protein to grow and the rest is energy. Once you have the materials you need to build a house, your labor will dictate how quickly and efficiently it gets built!



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