Going vegetarian. Kind of.

[gbrice75]

I don't judge and I would never call you a hypocrite, but if it swims or walks and breaths oxygen and we eat it it's called survival. And it's slauterd for just that.
I'll support your goals no matter how you obtain them.
Good luck

We're bodybuilding, that's hardly survival. In fact, very few people in the civilized world are concerned with 'survival'. These animals are farmed for mass production, and have a terrible quality of life up until their slaughter, which must be sweet relief for them. I hate the way this is allowed... everything for the allmighty dollar. I am struggling with my own reasoning behind eating as much meat as I do now...

I have no problems with killing an animal to eat it, for sustenance. I have alot of respect for nature and animals, and understand the food chain just fine. The problem is these animals are handled like objects, and it just isn't right. I hate how our government is just fine with this, I guess they make plenty off of these huge corporations, so it's nobody's concern.

[MBMETC]

We're bodybuilding, that's hardly survival. In fact, very few people in the civilized world are concerned with 'survival'. These animals are farmed for mass production, and have a terrible quality of life up until their slaughter, which must be sweet relief for them. I hate the way this is allowed... everything for the allmighty dollar. I am struggling with my own reasoning behind eating as much meat as I do now...

I have no problems with killing an animal to eat it, for sustenance. I have alot of respect for nature and animals, and understand the food chain just fine. The problem is these animals are handled like objects, and it just isn't right. I hate how our government is just fine with this, I guess they make plenty off of these huge corporations, so it's nobody's concern.

I feel like you and agree with the inhumanity of killing, i just try not to think of it. now with the world population do you think there is a better way to supply the world with these foods. if we just let these animals breed on their own there would not be nearly enough food to go around. i blame it on the fastfood industry and the obesity problem that keeps these places thriving.

[jimmyinkedup]

Its really just the evolution of natural selection - good or bad. The fact is there is not enough wildlife to support the population if we were all still hunter/gatherers. I dont view the breeding of livestock any differntly than the harvesting of grains. In order to support the population necessity dictates that we do this.
Its a personal choice ..and i respect others rights and opinions on this matter. Thats just mine.

[gbrice75]

I feel like you and agree with the inhumanity of killing, i just try not to think of it. now with the world population do you think there is a better way to supply the world with these foods. if we just let these animals breed on their own there would not be nearly enough food to go around. i blame it on the fastfood industry and the obesity problem that keeps these places thriving.

Bigtime, for starters.

Its really just the evolution of natural selection - good or bad. The fact is there is not enough wildlife to support the population if we were all still hunter/gatherers. I dont view the breeding of livestock any differntly than the harvesting of grains. In order to support the population necessity dictates that we do this.
Its a personal choice ..and i respect others rights and opinions on this matter. Thats just mine.

I know this thread is getting derailed, so I apologize in advance. I respect your opinion, but we're already disgustingly overpopulated - and even with the food industry as it is, there are still people starving in this world.

Maybe I have a really morbid view of humanity, but I see us as nothing more than parasites, sucking the resources out of this planet. Just look at the changes over the last 100 years... then consider 100 years as compared to the age of our planet. It's disgusting.

[JJ78]

Its really just the evolution of natural selection - good or bad. The fact is there is not enough wildlife to support the population if we were all still hunter/gatherers. I dont view the breeding of livestock any differntly than the harvesting of grains. In order to support the population necessity dictates that we do this.
Its a personal choice ..and i respect others rights and opinions on this matter. Thats just mine.

The problem with this way of thinking is that factory farming is destroying the earth.
Polution, contaimination, disease.
And the feed that they feed these animals is all GMO corn and shit. Then you are ingesting it into your body and you are not getting the proper nutrients from the food, plus who knows what the GMO DNA is doing to your body.

[jimmyinkedup]

The problem with this way of thinking is that factory farming is destroying the earth.
Polution, contaimination, disease.
And the feed that they feed these animals is all GMO corn and shit. Then you are ingesting it into your body and you are not getting the proper nutrients from the food, plus who knows what the GMO DNA is doing to your body.

Well ill tell you...ohhh wait i think my turkey burgers are ready to flip...brb...

Ok back...sorry




*note* the above was a joke and not meant to offend anyone - although i am eating ground turkey tonight.

In all seriousness I respct your opinion and lifestyle, i do....i just dont share either one.
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[JJ78]

We're bodybuilding, that's hardly survival. In fact, very few people in the civilized world are concerned with 'survival'. These animals are farmed for mass production, and have a terrible quality of life up until their slaughter, which must be sweet relief for them. I hate the way this is allowed... everything for the allmighty dollar. I am struggling with my own reasoning behind eating as much meat as I do now...

I have no problems with killing an animal to eat it, for sustenance. I have alot of respect for nature and animals, and understand the food chain just fine. The problem is these animals are handled like objects, and it just isn't right. I hate how our government is just fine with this, I guess they make plenty off of these huge corporations, so it's nobody's concern.

I too feel like with the rate of disease, especially in America, is in direct coorlation with the way we treat animals and the earth. Mother Nature is punishing the human race with disease.

The China Study is a very interesting book.