you do not need milk thistle at all for an injectable only cycle. when you involve oral steroids, milk thistle/liv 52 are optional if you think you will have liver problems

novice cycle:

1-10 test e/c 500mg/wk (250mg twice a week)
1-4 dbol 30mg/ED (split up evenly)

pct:

13-16 nolva 40/20/20/20
13-16 clomid or torem

start pct when half-life is up:
test cyp half-life - 12 days
test enth half-life - 10.5 days