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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post
    I'd start with:

    325g protein = 1300 calories
    150g carbs = 600 calories
    90g fat = 810 calories

    total 2710

    Now, this is a bit lower than I talked about earlier, but I'd suggest starting here and monitoring your progress closely. If you are very lethargic, weak, etc then you need to adjust your calories until you're dialed in.

    What does your cardio routine look like? Diet is only a piece of the puzzle.

    Oats - I love them with water! Sweeten with splenda and cinnamon, gtg! Yes, you can definitely use jam - sugar free. Hint - I use a bit of fat free half and half to make them creamy - better than skimmed milk!

    Good idea to cut the bodyfat first; then you'll be primed to add mass!
    Cheers for all your input mate, I just read both your replies above, I'm going to take onboard everything you've said and I'll report back in a few weeks and let ya know how its going.

    I'm going to start the new cutting diet on Friday because thats when I go shopping each week and buy all the food for the week.

    I think the diet I put myself on defo wasnt working because I weighed myself today and I was still the same weight I was a few weeks ago when I last weighed myself, and I've been seriously killing myself at the gym and with cardio...I've been doing tabata front squats and biking to gym and back 5 days a week.

    I currently do a 4 day split, 2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 1 day off, it works out that I do 5 days out of every 7 that way. I got this routine from Dorian Yates...I feel like I'm working out correctly, I dont consider myself a newbie when it comes to working out. I usually do 45-60 mins weights, I know not to do much more then that.

    My schedule is like this:

    Chest/biceps
    Back
    rest day
    tri's/delts
    legs
    rest day

    rince repeat.


    Also above you said:
    Dude, you need some meat in your diet. Why does your diet consist of almost completely eggs? How about beef? Chicken? Fish? It would be best to get your protein from a wide variety for a complete amino profile. Also, eggs are very fast digesting and not ideal food all day long. You need something of more substance. Also, add veggies to this meal
    I'm a pescetarian mate, which means I only eat eggs/fish...I dont eat chicken/beef or any other type of meet. So I get my protein from eggs/fish/whey.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, and to answer your question, yeah meal 6 is what I'd be having just before bed. Don't worry, I'm going to buy casein shake today.

    I have a question for you actually, you know you said:
    drop the olive oil (use PAM or something) drop the cod liver oils and save for later meals.
    I thought olive oil was the best kinda oil you could use? and I've never heard of PAM, am not disagreeing with you, just wondering whats bad about it, and what is PAM? what do those initials stand for. Also, which time of day should I consume my cod liver oil? because I heard its a really important supplement.

    And should I eat omega 3 as well?

    EDIT: Just out of curisosity, I've always wondered, what weight I'd need to be to be lean and ripped, at around 10% bodyfat or less, because I'm probably around 20% now....I'm thinking I need to lose around 3 stone, what do you think?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Christopher_UK; 04-26-2011 at 04:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    Cheers for all your input mate, I just read both your replies above, I'm going to take onboard everything you've said and I'll report back in a few weeks and let ya know how its going.
    Great, looking forward to hearing about your progress!

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    I'm going to start the new cutting diet on Friday because thats when I go shopping each week and buy all the food for the week.
    No worries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    I think the diet I put myself on defo wasnt working because I weighed myself today and I was still the same weight I was a few weeks ago when I last weighed myself, and I've been seriously killing myself at the gym and with cardio...I've been doing tabata front squats and biking to gym and back 5 days a week.
    With all that work, you should be dropping weight. That's a pretty good indication diet was the problem. It's no wonder though; you were basically on a sugar diet that was also very high in fat - that's a lethal combo right there

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    I currently do a 4 day split, 2 days on, 1 day off, 2 days on, 1 day off, it works out that I do 5 days out of every 7 that way. I got this routine from Dorian Yates...I feel like I'm working out correctly, I dont consider myself a newbie when it comes to working out. I usually do 45-60 mins weights, I know not to do much more then that.

    My schedule is like this:

    Chest/biceps
    Back
    rest day
    tri's/delts
    legs
    rest day

    rince repeat.
    I like it. Would be interested to see your specific routine - i.e. exercises, set/rep scheme, etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    Also above you said:


    I'm a pescetarian mate, which means I only eat eggs/fish...I dont eat chicken/beef or any other type of meet. So I get my protein from eggs/fish/whey.
    Understood. If you mentioned this earlier in your thread, I missed it. Now I see it bolded and big! However, your diet has mostly all eggs, and 1 little bit of cod; i'd add more fish, try and do a 50/50 fish and eggs then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    EDIT: Oh yeah, and to answer your question, yeah meal 6 is what I'd be having just before bed. Don't worry, I'm going to buy casein shake today.
    Good!

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    I have a question for you actually, you know you said:

    I thought olive oil was the best kinda oil you could use? and I've never heard of PAM, am not disagreeing with you, just wondering whats bad about it, and what is PAM? what do those initials stand for. Also, which time of day should I consume my cod liver oil? because I heard its a really important supplement.

    And should I eat omega 3 as well?
    Olive oil is great, but I wouldn't say it's the best choice. It's high in monounsaturated fat which is very healthy, but i'd go for the omega 3's moreso. Oily fish is your best option here - salmon, Spanish mackerel, herring, sardines, etc. When you need to supplement, fish oil caps are great. PAM is simply a non-fat non-stick cooking spray. It's not that the olive oil was bad, there was just WAY too much fat in that meal and we needed to reduce it. Consume the cod liver oil (salmon oil would be better) in your non-carb meals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post
    EDIT: Just out of curisosity, I've always wondered, what weight I'd need to be to be lean and ripped, at around 10% bodyfat or less, because I'm probably around 20% now....I'm thinking I need to lose around 3 stone, what do you think?

    Thanks in advance.
    Assuming your 22% bodyfat right now, you'd need to lose roughly 30lbs of PURE FAT to be in the 10% range. 10% should show a good bit of definition if you have a decent muscle base - no offense, but based on your pic it doesn't appear to me that you do. Maybe it's just a bad pic, because your weight would suggest otherwise. You'd be lean at 10% - I wouldn't call it ripped/shredded, but you'd definitely be nice and lean. I'm about 12% in my avy to give you an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher_UK View Post

    I have a question for you actually, you know you said:

    I thought olive oil was the best kinda oil you could use? and I've never heard of PAM, am not disagreeing with you, just wondering whats bad about it, and what is PAM? what do those initials stand for. Also, which time of day should I consume my cod liver oil? because I heard its a really important supplement.

    And should I eat omega 3 as well?

    EDIT: Just out of curisosity, I've always wondered, what weight I'd need to be to be lean and ripped, at around 10% bodyfat or less, because I'm probably around 20% now....I'm thinking I need to lose around 3 stone, what do you think?

    Thanks in advance.
    I'm thinking when he said save this for another meal is because he is making your first meal a pro/carb meal. With your diet, it is important to not have a lot of carbs and a lot of fat in the same meal as one of them will be stored as fat. So we break them up as best as possible. For the most part a meal is pro/carb or pro/fat, depending on the meal timing and when your workout is.

    As for the pam, its a non-stick cooking spray which is common on this side of the pond.

    As for the body fat%...If you weigh 275 and you think 20% is fat= then 55lbs is fat and 220 is lean muscle.
    To get down to 10% you would have to lose 27.5 lbs.
    This assumes you body fat % is accurate.
    Last edited by Nephets; 04-26-2011 at 08:31 PM.

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