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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerliftWill View Post
    Ya me either...im on 75mg/ed right now around 2.5 weeks in and im getting some good vascularity, but the sleep is fine. No night sweats...strength isnt as good as i thought it would be. Starting to sweat a little more during the day but it's also been alot hotter here lately so I can't say if it's the tren. OP, how far along in the cycle are you with tren? Just want to compare sides/results...because im not seeing anything major yet that everyone boasts about tren. Hopefully it just needs more time.
    thats all the sides i got, well maybe alittle more hot tempered also. seems we may be lucky with sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    thats all the sides i got, well maybe alittle more hot tempered also. seems we may be lucky with sides
    Ya i'm normally very shitty tempered, but for some reason when on cycle I handle it better. But I still have 4-5 more weeks on tren so we'll see how much that changes by then. When do you normally get the full blown power of tren dec11?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerliftWill View Post
    Ya i'm normally very shitty tempered, but for some reason when on cycle I handle it better. But I still have 4-5 more weeks on tren so we'll see how much that changes by then. When do you normally get the full blown power of tren dec11?
    noticed it after a week, it was hitting hard at 2.5-3wks in, kinda went bang all of a sudden rather than a steady build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    noticed it after a week, it was hitting hard at 2.5-3wks in, kinda went bang all of a sudden rather than a steady build up.
    ya i definitely noticed it more this week in terms of vascularity and sweating so hopefully by the end of this week it'll be full blown. I dont know where all the crappy sides ppl get from tren are coming from. I mean high dose test at 1g/wk gave me way worse insomnia than 750mg test/525mg tren. It's almost non-existent. I know it's legit too, it's homebrew and prolly a bit over 100mg/ml since i ran out of few ml's of cotton seed oil i needed.

    Issue is, the gains arent what I expected....im tempted to up the dose but i don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerliftWill View Post
    ya i definitely noticed it more this week in terms of vascularity and sweating so hopefully by the end of this week it'll be full blown. I dont know where all the crappy sides ppl get from tren are coming from. I mean high dose test at 1g/wk gave me way worse insomnia than 750mg test/525mg tren. It's almost non-existent. I know it's legit too, it's homebrew and prolly a bit over 100mg/ml since i ran out of few ml's of cotton seed oil i needed.

    Issue is, the gains arent what I expected....im tempted to up the dose but i don't know.
    my sleep pattern always gets alittle upset at the start when i fire up the compounds no matter what i take, usually settles again within a week or so though

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    my sleep pattern always gets alittle upset at the start when i fire up the compounds no matter what i take, usually settles again within a week or so though
    It's annoying because i think im gaining bf over lbm despite my diet being solid. I can't tell if it's water retention from test or fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerliftWill View Post
    It's annoying because i think im gaining bf over lbm despite my diet being solid. I can't tell if it's water retention from test or fat.
    trust me, the tren will take care of tht sharpish. it carved me out, take an AI if the water is bothering but once the tren kicks in it will go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerliftWill View Post
    ya i definitely noticed it more this week in terms of vascularity and sweating so hopefully by the end of this week it'll be full blown. I dont know where all the crappy sides ppl get from tren are coming from. I mean high dose test at 1g/wk gave me way worse insomnia than 750mg test/525mg tren. It's almost non-existent. I know it's legit too, it's homebrew and prolly a bit over 100mg/ml since i ran out of few ml's of cotton seed oil i needed.

    Issue is, the gains arent what I expected....im tempted to up the dose but i don't know.
    lower your T bro-to 300mg a week, your holding a ton of water and aromatizing, and its causing fat gain..............try it...........you will be in love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-DET-OAK View Post
    lower your T bro-to 300mg a week, your holding a ton of water and aromatizing, and its causing fat gain..............try it...........you will be in love.
    Ill try it out and see how I feel on it. I've kept my test dose around 250mg when I first started tren and felt shitty but it might have been because the tren hadnt kicked in yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerliftWill View Post
    Ill try it out and see how I feel on it. I've kept my test dose around 250mg when I first started tren and felt shitty but it might have been because the tren hadnt kicked in yet.
    how did you feel? as far as shitty? i ask that cause i dont want to be responsible for making you feel like shit man...........
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