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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossofdariver View Post
    had no idea that AI's could make your body produce more estrogen, still learning been reading as much as i can the last couple months. but i have been changing my diet and losing the body fat. will probably get tested again once i get to around 10 percent bodyfat.
    its not really that it will make you produce more, its just that over a long time they will not continue to increase T levels, this is after continued use. what im saying is that an AI is not a treatment for hypogonadism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-DET-OAK View Post
    its not really that it will make you produce more, its just that over a long time they will not continue to increase T levels, this is after continued use. what im saying is that an AI is not a treatment for hypogonadism.
    im pretty sure my test levels are just fine, but i will def keep that in mind.will be getting blood test done every 6 months or so to keep things regulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeroxy View Post
    It is a good post and well explained, i'd just like to point out one fact about letro, it does not reduce estrogen by as much as is claimed (98%) it's around 46-68% in males, obviously this is dose dependant but we are of course talking about the normal doses of 2.5mg.
    The 98% that is claimed and posted sometimes is from studies done on females.
    Regarding the post on estrogen rebound (or lack of it) from adex, well this depends on the dosage/duration and when and what steroids were taken.
    As testerone levels decrease so does the amount of aromatase and therefore estrogen, then you need to take into account the dose, duration and half life of adex, when it was used and for how long after cycle it was used and finally the half life of the aromatase enzyme itself and the amount of aromatase enzyme in the individual, which differs significantly from person to person, hence why some people suffer gyno and others do not.
    It also lowers estrogen to "undetecable levels in males", as shown in this study.

    I do not have the full paper, but would be very interested if you were able to find it, then tell me the dose used and how much estrogen was suppressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by THE-DET-OAK View Post
    thats crazy man, just so you know the AI will not work forever, eventually the negative feedback loop will catch up with you and your body will just produce more aromatase enzymes.

    its prolly lifestyle choices, poor diet or just bad luck.

    you should read the warrior diet, there are alot of estrogenic foods. meaning they can cause your E to get high. not too mention alot of plastics can do the same thing. conversely there are alot of antiestrogenic foods. if you could fix your E without an AI it would be beneficial in the long run and raise your total test.
    The poxy search function isnt working right now, but when I can locate my post on anti-aromotase foods and the attached comparable study, I will post it here.
    Quote Originally Posted by THE-DET-OAK View Post
    its not really that it will make you produce more, its just that over a long time they will not continue to increase T levels, this is after continued use. what im saying is that an AI is not a treatment for hypogonadism.
    AI's have been used to treat hypogonadism by changing the androgen:estrogen ratio.

    Here one study in the "Therapeutic Uses of AI's in males".

    Here's another on obese men quadrupling their endogenous T levels. Thats 1 2.5mg tab, 1x week.

    There are plenty more on AI's treating hypogonadism and this is a treatment many Endo's suggest, after or before SERM treatment for T normalization.

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