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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidReaper View Post
    Yeah me either lol. Never shed a hair on tren. I lost more hair from ****in dbol than tren. Funny though, i ran Winny Tren and Masteron in a cycle and never lost hair. But then i do dbol one time and hair falls off like its snowing. Wtf? lol

    You my friend, have high natural levels of DHT im guessing..
    From what ive gathered, dbol messes with the other side of the DHT+t/E ratio.
    DHT derived cause hairloss thru similar actions of the hormone.
    DBOL is more estrogenic than winny, mast... so it plays with the 'bottom' part of the ratio (the estrogen)
    DBOL raises estro, I hope u didnt take finasteride with DBOL that makes it worse...
    estrogen causes hairloss also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    You my friend, have high natural levels of DHT im guessing..
    From what ive gathered, dbol messes with the other side of the DHT+t/E ratio.
    DHT derived cause hairloss thru similar actions of the hormone.
    DBOL is more estrogenic than winny, mast... so it plays with the 'bottom' part of the ratio (the estrogen)
    DBOL raises estro, I hope u didnt take finasteride with DBOL that makes it worse...
    estrogen causes hairloss also...
    My estro has been a bit high on tests. Ive been cruising for a long time wanting to come off, (ive posted this in other threads). I usually blast and cruise. Cruise on 200mg test a week and blast to 400 MAX. When im on 200 my E2 is about 47 (still a tad bit high) max is 55. When i go to 400 im at like 90.

    I do notice when my E2 is too high my sex drive tends to fade dramatically and my mood is depression. Never knew E2 caused hairloss, maybe thats why i went through a big shed. I was extremely bloated on Dbol. But yeah i stacked mast and winny and never had a problem with hair. My DHT is only 29. So not really that high.

    As far as propecia.. I will NEVER take that. Id rather be bald with muscles and a hard dick than feel miserable with no libido just to save a few hairs. Plus if i went bald i wouldnt care, i pull it off quite well and chicks dig it. esp when ur jacked lol.

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    haha i did winny for a cycle i ended up shavin my head.. i think it makes me look more muscular than a head full of shaggy hair lol. but never again for winny...

    ok gotcha, im still puttin this DHT+t/E ratio down. got it a lil backwards.

    Do u take a low dose AI during ur cruise? w8 ur wantin to comeoff..
    200mg week cruise is a bit on the high side, if ur wantin to come off might wanna drop this down to 150mg/week cuz typically test cyp 200mg every 2 weeks is a TRT dose. (so 100mg/week)
    It does take some time for the AR to balance itself, so keeping it as close to normal possible can help increase recovery.

    Since ur DHT is low, you could get away with some mast/winny by itself and not suffer much suppression. but i doubt u have a use for it...

    if ur wantin of, better start some HCG asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    haha i did winny for a cycle i ended up shavin my head.. i think it makes me look more muscular than a head full of shaggy hair lol. but never again for winny...

    ok gotcha, im still puttin this DHT+t/E ratio down. got it a lil backwards.

    Do u take a low dose AI during ur cruise? w8 ur wantin to comeoff..
    200mg week cruise is a bit on the high side, if ur wantin to come off might wanna drop this down to 150mg/week cuz typically test cyp 200mg every 2 weeks is a TRT dose. (so 100mg/week)
    It does take some time for the AR to balance itself, so keeping it as close to normal possible can help increase recovery.

    Since ur DHT is low, you could get away with some mast/winny by itself and not suffer much suppression. but i doubt u have a use for it...

    if ur wantin of, better start some HCG asap
    Yeah man but im to paranoid about losing size. I will go into a depression. I had a bad traumatic incident happen in my life which has caused me to use steroids as my bandaid. Very wrong and stupid decision. As dumb as this sounds, being muscular makes me happy. Please dont flame me guys, im just being honest. I went down a rough road and hey i made my bed now i gotta sleep in it, i get that, and thats how it is.

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