Arnie must be a Democrat to plug this taco-muncher

[quarry206]

for the record I am against illegal immigration. . .

BUT!

One of the big issues I have with the arrangements against illegal immigration is that they pull and twist facts to fit their opinions and not base their opinions on facts. there are enough facts out there to dislike illegal immigration so why are people quoting numbers that are very twisted . . When quoting costs and such you can't get mixed the numbers beefed up for boarder security because of illegal drug and weapons trade. also lets not get forget most medical cost are illegals getting injured doing construction work and other labor jobs that the American employers are shafting them and not providing health or workers comp coverage. in a recent study (forgiving me for not having the link) it was shown that a lot of the education costs in cali were jacked up because of so many not speaking or understanding English, but the costs are only slightly raised by illegals, that the same issue would be there because of legal citizens that do not teach their children English in the home.


My OPINION IS, There is a problem with illegal immigration in this country for the simple and easy fact of though the costs are inflated when shown, their is still a high cost. As Americans we are facing impossible economic times and billions here and billions there going to illegal immigration in one fashion or another. most do not pay taxes but receive federal or state aide in the form of medical coverage and education. the violent crimes by many gangs such as MS-13 formed of mostly illegal immigrants from El Salvador and other gangs with direct ties to illegal immigration. \

as far as the person who gave the logic of well the war costs a lot so why are we so worried about immigration is a stupid argument, just because there are other stupid government programs and/or spending does not mean you forget immigration. We have to address them all, but the topic that this became is illegal immigration so therefor that is what we are talking about today. .

As a whole we are struggling to education and give medical care to legal citizens of this country. So as long as we are in a state as a country that we can't fully help and be there for our own people I don't agree with supporting illegals that are coming into the country and for the most part sending the money they earn out of the country (back to family).

[zimmy]

for the record I am against illegal immigration. . .

BUT!

One of the big issues I have with the arrangements against illegal immigration is that they pull and twist facts to fit their opinions and not base their opinions on facts. there are enough facts out there to dislike illegal immigration so why are people quoting numbers that are very twisted . . When quoting costs and such you can't get mixed the numbers beefed up for boarder security because of illegal drug and weapons trade. also lets not get forget most medical cost are illegals getting injured doing construction work and other labor jobs that the American employers are shafting them and not providing health or workers comp coverage. in a recent study (forgiving me for not having the link) it was shown that a lot of the education costs in cali were jacked up because of so many not speaking or understanding English, but the costs are only slightly raised by illegals, that the same issue would be there because of legal citizens that do not teach their children English in the home.


My OPINION IS, There is a problem with illegal immigration in this country for the simple and easy fact of though the costs are inflated when shown, their is still a high cost. As Americans we are facing impossible economic times and billions here and billions there going to illegal immigration in one fashion or another. most do not pay taxes but receive federal or state aide in the form of medical coverage and education. the violent crimes by many gangs such as MS-13 formed of mostly illegal immigrants from El Salvador and other gangs with direct ties to illegal immigration. \

as far as the person who gave the logic of well the war costs a lot so why are we so worried about immigration is a stupid argument, just because there are other stupid government programs and/or spending does not mean you forget immigration. We have to address them all, but the topic that this became is illegal immigration so therefor that is what we are talking about today. .

As a whole we are struggling to education and give medical care to legal citizens of this country. So as long as we are in a state as a country that we can't fully help and be there for our own people I don't agree with supporting illegals that are coming into the country and for the most part sending the money they earn out of the country (back to family).

Well said! Totally agree with you.

[Flier]

for the record I am against illegal immigration. . .

BUT!

One of the big issues I have with the arrangements against illegal immigration is that they pull and twist facts to fit their opinions and not base their opinions on facts. there are enough facts out there to dislike illegal immigration so why are people quoting numbers that are very twisted . . When quoting costs and such you can't get mixed the numbers beefed up for boarder security because of illegal drug and weapons trade. also lets not get forget most medical cost are illegals getting injured doing construction work and other labor jobs that the American employers are shafting them and not providing health or workers comp coverage. in a recent study (forgiving me for not having the link) it was shown that a lot of the education costs in cali were jacked up because of so many not speaking or understanding English, but the costs are only slightly raised by illegals, that the same issue would be there because of legal citizens that do not teach their children English in the home.


My OPINION IS, There is a problem with illegal immigration in this country for the simple and easy fact of though the costs are inflated when shown, their is still a high cost. As Americans we are facing impossible economic times and billions here and billions there going to illegal immigration in one fashion or another. most do not pay taxes but receive federal or state aide in the form of medical coverage and education. the violent crimes by many gangs such as MS-13 formed of mostly illegal immigrants from El Salvador and other gangs with direct ties to illegal immigration. \

as far as the person who gave the logic of well the war costs a lot so why are we so worried about immigration is a stupid argument, just because there are other stupid government programs and/or spending does not mean you forget immigration. We have to address them all, but the topic that this became is illegal immigration so therefor that is what we are talking about today. .

As a whole we are struggling to education and give medical care to legal citizens of this country. So as long as we are in a state as a country that we can't fully help and be there for our own people I don't agree with supporting illegals that are coming into the country and for the most part sending the money they earn out of the country (back to family).

Finally some well thought of arguments against illegal immigration, instead of the news parroting gibberish Clemont and this other mental-case is spewing out.

The cost of illegal immigration, is a very complex equation, as, even though they don´t pay taxes, the money they make are recirculated when they pay for living cost. 20 millions illegals have to pay rent, eat, buy gas etc., turning the $.
How about, for each 1000 illegals, how many tax paying US jobs are created in the medical field, law enforcement, food industry, retail etc.

So the final "cost" of illegal immigration, who knows.

Illegal immigration still need to end, as there need to be some type of investigation into intent, and contributive attributes a person has, before being allowed to join the community.