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    ok cantbetouched thanks for the tough love.....ur right i didnt do much research i actually relied on a stong knowledged friend who is turning into an unhelpful bastard as of late so im lookin to you guys .....im gonna bring the test down to 500 i feel.....ill also start the adex in the am....ill also up the winny to 50mgs daily and ride that for the reminder of the 8wks i had orig planned......you dont like my pct plan? nolva and hcg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayanticoli View Post
    ok cantbetouched thanks for the tough love.....ur right i didnt do much research i actually relied on a stong knowledged friend who is turning into an unhelpful bastard as of late so im lookin to you guys .....im gonna bring the test down to 500 i feel.....ill also start the adex in the am....ill also up the winny to 50mgs daily and ride that for the reminder of the 8wks i had orig planned......you dont like my pct plan? nolva and hcg?
    Higher doses DOES NOT MEAN BETTER GAINS. Not sure how you can blindly listen to your friend. This is your body that you could potentially ruin for the rest of your life. You can't just borrow your friends later on because he gave you bad advice. Do yourself a huge favor and spend a lot of time reading all the educational threads and self-educate yourself about exactly what your doing. By the end of the cycle you should be well informed on most information. I'd also post your diet up in the diet section and continue reading on this website and probably stop listening to your friend because he sounds like an idiot.

    Your PCT plan is garbage, no offense.

    HCG should be run DURING YOUR CYCLE AND NOT PCT.

    This is how you should have setup your cycle:

    Week 1- 14 Test Cypionate 500 mg/wk (Or 12 I dont know how long your running it for)
    Week 1 - 14 50 mg Winstrol / ED
    Week 1-14 0.5mg Armidex EOD
    Week 1-14 500 IU's HCG (Injected 2x/week @ 250 IU's

    PCT 16 DAYS AFTER LAST TEST CYP INJECTION:

    Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20/20/20 mg ED
    Clomid @ 50/50/25/25/25/25 mg ED OR Torem @ 120/120/60/60/60/60 mg ED

    Supplements to Take:

    Glucosamine
    Milk Thistle (500mg EOD) - Use if your taking Oral Winstrol.
    Last edited by Windex; 06-06-2011 at 10:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Higher doses DOES NOT MEAN BETTER GAINS. Not sure how you can blindly listen to your friend. This is your body that you could potentially ruin for the rest of your life. You can't just borrow your friends later on because he gave you bad advice. Do yourself a huge favor and spend a lot of time reading all the educational threads and self-educate yourself about exactly what your doing. By the end of the cycle you should be well informed on most information. I'd also post your diet up in the diet section and continue reading on this website and probably stop listening to your friend because he sounds like an idiot.

    Your PCT plan is garbage, no offense.

    HCG should be run DURING YOUR CYCLE AND NOT PCT.

    This is how you should have setup your cycle:

    Week 1- 14 Test Cypionate 500 mg/wk (Or 12 I dont know how long your running it for)
    Week 1 - 14 50 mg Winstrol / ED
    Week 1-14 0.5mg Armidex EOD
    Week 1-14 500 IU's HCG (Injected 2x/week @ 250 IU's

    PCT 16 DAYS AFTER LAST TEST CYP INJECTION:

    Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20/20/20 mg ED
    Clomid @ 50/50/25/25/25/25 mg ED OR Torem @ 120/120/60/60/60/60 mg ED

    Supplements to Take:

    Glucosamine
    Milk Thistle (500mg EOD) - Use if your taking Oral Winstrol.
    If you do have oral winny DO NOT TAKE IT FOR 14 WEEKS I WOULD ONLY GO WEEKS 13-16 yeah i got the tough love on my go around so i rely the feeling... but here to help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Higher doses DOES NOT MEAN BETTER GAINS. WHAT YOU MENT TO SAY IS HIGHER DOSES DO GIVE BETTER GAINS!!! take your advise and read!! Not sure how you can blindly listen to your friend. This is your body that you could potentially ruin for the rest of your life. You can't just borrow your friends later on because he gave you bad advice. Do yourself a huge favor and spend a lot of time reading all the educational threads and self-educate yourself about exactly what your doing. By the end of the cycle you should be well informed on most information. I'd also post your diet up in the diet section and continue reading on this website and probably stop listening to your friend because he sounds like an idiot.

    Your PCT plan is garbage, no offense.

    HCG should be run DURING YOUR CYCLE AND NOT PCT.

    This is how you should have setup your cycle:

    Week 1- 14 Test Cypionate 500 mg/wk (Or 12 I dont know how long your running it for)
    Week 1 - 14 50 mg Winstrol / ED
    Week 1-14 0.5mg Armidex EOD
    Week 1-14 500 IU's HCG (Injected 2x/week @ 250 IU's

    PCT 16 DAYS AFTER LAST TEST CYP INJECTION:

    Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20/20/20 mg ED
    Clomid @ 50/50/25/25/25/25 mg ED OR Torem @ 120/120/60/60/60/60 mg ED

    Supplements to Take:

    Glucosamine
    Milk Thistle (500mg EOD) - Use if your taking Oral Winstrol.
    Change in fat-free mass (A), fat mass (B), leg press strength (C), thigh muscle volume (D), quadriceps muscle volume (E), sexual function (F), insulin-like growth factor I (G), and prostate-specific antigen (H). Data are means ± SE. *Significant differences from all other groups (P < 0.05); significant difference from 25-, 50-, and 125-mg doses (P < 0.05); +significant difference from 25- and 50-mg doses (P < 0.05); and significant difference from 25-mg dose (P < 0.05). (14)
    Now this is very interesting. You’ll note that the most fat was lost by the group in this study who used the highest dose (600mgs/week), and the most Fat Free mass, Strength and Muscle Volume was gained, when compared to any of the lower doses studied (14). Basically, the more testosterone you use (and this holds true for almost all steroids), the more gains you’ll get! I know that the previous statement will ruffle some feathers in the “less is more” club, but that’s simply too bad…more test = more muscle, more strength, more size, and less fat.

    Did the men in this study experience side effects at the 600mg dose? Well…HDL cholesterol was lowered (but not total cholesterol or triglyceride levels), and two guys got Acne. Not exactly cause for a Senate Investigation, huh? (14)
    Of course, the usual nasty side effects you can get from any form of injectable testosterone are possible with testosterone Enanthate (acne, hairloss, prostate enlargement, and shutting down your body’s own natural hormonal system, etc…) but they are very overstated or controllable in many instances.

    A large percentage of those side effects occur from the body’s ability to turn testosterone into estrogen via a metabolic pathway mediated by the aromatase enzyme. This process, known as aromatization causes a portion of testosterone to be converted to estrogen. Aromatase Inhibitors (Arimidex and Letroaole, for example) can combat this very effectively, and are usually necessary with doses over ½ a gram per week.

    This was taken from our steroid profile section!!!

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