Getting back into the game...Suggestions por favor..

[Boltfan909]

8 week prop cycle on a calorie deficite and 45 mins a day empty stomach mit cardio is all you need. diet and training will determain the results not how much gear u run.

Thanks for the response!.. Yea I hadn't really gave prop the time of day (thought wise) until I really thought about the fact it's probably the best for the lean hard look. Sus would be 2nd in line, I think that + an AI should be pretty close? The ONLY beef with the Prop is having to pin so damn often

[MBMETC]

Thanks for the response!.. Yea I hadn't really gave prop the time of day (thought wise) until I really thought about the fact it's probably the best for the lean hard look. Sus would be 2nd in line, I think that + an AI should be pretty close? The ONLY beef with the Prop is having to pin so damn often

it gets tough no doubt but it will kick in quick allowing u to hold on to as much muscle while you cut. but again you can do this on diet and cardio alone 15lbs will get you near 11%-12%

[Boltfan909]

it gets tough no doubt but it will kick in quick allowing u to hold on to as much muscle while you cut. but again you can do this on diet and cardio alone 15lbs will get you near 11%-12%

Yea, I am not going for a super cut look, just don't want an excess of flub haha.. I do this to look good when my shirt comes off, not competing etc. With that being said I am 100% on board with eating clean and training hard etc but if the Wife wants to go out to Happy Hour once every couple weeks I won't turn her down just because I am on a mission for a 6 pack, if that makes any sense?

Big muscles, somewhat vascular, with a little belly fat is OK..I just don't wanna puff up and blow up like a baloon is all..



edit: also, some guys say with the little bit of Prop that is in the Sus it seems to get the ball rolling quicker than say a Test E/Cyp, obviously not as fast as pure Prop. But do you think it's quick ENOUGH to get by, and also with an AI do you think the Sus will provide similar gains to the Prop? TIA bro