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    Ok, thanks for your input. I'd appreciate a little less of the patronizing speeches. However, I do understand your thoughts on my age, completely justified. Also, the reason for my squats lacking is because two years ago i had my legs bashed in with a bat and some chains. My shins are now incredibly weak when I perform squats, hack squats and back-shrugs. Deadlifts don't seem to affect the strain as much. As for my diet, yes it could use some work, but I work long hours on a forklift and in a warehouse so for me, getting up and eating whenever I want isn't possible. As for the statement concerning helping a friend - i had two off days, lifting light isnt an issue during these days.

    You mentioned test will not make me gain muscle size - but with the amount I eat, I'm sure my size would be more noticable than my strength gains. There are people in far worse conditions than me roiding with dbol and anadrol, could I reach my goals naturally? Sure, but it would take much much much longer. Im not sure if you get sarcasm, but there is a lot of it in the log posts. I never said tbol wouldn't supress my test, not sure why you brought that up? I can assure you my training routine is great - especially my cardio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skptk View Post
    Ok, thanks for your input. I'd appreciate a little less of the patronizing speeches. However, I do understand your thoughts on my age, completely justified. Also, the reason for my squats lacking is because two years ago i had my legs bashed in with a bat and some chains. My shins are now incredibly weak when I perform squats, hack squats and back-shrugs. Deadlifts don't seem to affect the strain as much. As for my diet, yes it could use some work, but I work long hours on a forklift and in a warehouse so for me, getting up and eating whenever I want isn't possible. As for the statement concerning helping a friend - i had two off days, lifting light isnt an issue during these days.

    You mentioned test will not make me gain muscle size - but with the amount I eat, I'm sure my size would be more noticable than my strength gains. There are people in far worse conditions than me roiding with dbol and anadrol, could I reach my goals naturally? Sure, but it would take much much much longer. Im not sure if you get sarcasm, but there is a lot of it in the log posts. I never said tbol wouldn't supress my test, not sure why you brought that up? I can assure you my training routine is great - especially my cardio.
    If you have an injury then you should be doing either physiotherapy or a variation of Squats. Sumo squats put less strain on you calfs and knees and put more emphasis on the quads and your hips IIRC.

    You have a bad excuse for having a poor diet. I'm a medical school student with a part time job. I have class 40 hours a week and I work 18 hours a week. I also look after my 3 pets and still have time to eat an optimal diet.

    Also, yes lifting is a problem. YOUR MUSCLES WILL NEVER GROW IF YOU DON'T REST. When you workout at the gym your muscles tear and during the recovery process more cells are produced, the cells are larger than original, and the tissue is stretched. That means they grow bigger and stronger. If you never rest you will never grow.

    FYI - There isn't only one dose of test. If you had chosen a TRT Dose of test (100-200mg/week) you would have significantly less problems. And I'm telling you tbold will suppress your endocrine system and your pituitary gland will stop secreting FSH which in turn will tell your testicles to stop making sperm.

    No clue why you would compare yourself to other people who are "in worse condition". I can see that you are stubborn and think that you are the exception to the rule of biology and somehow this will all work out for you. In my opinion you are in fact worse than most people who do steroids because you have been given all the tools on how to fix your problem and proceed with success and instead you would rather continue to put yourself in danger.

    Diet is the foundation to successful bodybuilding. It is the pinnacle of what determines fat gain from muscle gain, endurance vs fatiague, bloat from vascularity, and healthy from unhealthy.



    If you decide to stop with your Tbol garbage you can find me in the diet section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Diet is the foundation to successful bodybuilding. It is the pinnacle of what determines fat gain from muscle gain, endurance vs fatiague, bloat from vascularity, and healthy from unhealthy.
    I'm not a bodybuilder. I do care what I look like to some extent, I do not want to look like a fat slob, however my diet is more than adequate to see great results while taking an oral... I love exercise, I love boxing and I love eating - well done for you career pursuits by the by, it's good to hear people striving for greatness while taking other aspects of their life on by storm. Puts things into perspective for the rest of us who, apparantly, half-ass it!

    I'll definately look into doing sumo squats now that you mention it, I heard they were very hard on the hips and can result in damage to the cartilage which would not be good for the twists and speedy movements of boxing so I ruled them out a few years back when I first started lifting.

    I'm aware of how muscles build. And I'm willing to take a risk that a mild androgenic substance such as Tbol will have no long term effect on my system when taken for a cycle that runs less than 6 weeks with a decent PCT taken afterwards.

    Would you honestly be able to tell me that if I drop this Tbol cycle right now, I'd see the SAME strength gains I'll see at the end of this cycle, without it - even if I double the time period allowed (80 days) - just by going through my diet and training routine?? If you say yes, then by all means, Ill stop and try it your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skptk View Post
    I'm not a bodybuilder. I do care what I look like to some extent, I do not want to look like a fat slob, however my diet is more than adequate to see great results while taking an oral... I love exercise, I love boxing and I love eating - well done for you career pursuits by the by, it's good to hear people striving for greatness while taking other aspects of their life on by storm. Puts things into perspective for the rest of us who, apparantly, half-ass it!

    I'll definately look into doing sumo squats now that you mention it, I heard they were very hard on the hips and can result in damage to the cartilage which would not be good for the twists and speedy movements of boxing so I ruled them out a few years back when I first started lifting.

    I'm aware of how muscles build. And I'm willing to take a risk that a mild androgenic substance such as Tbol will have no long term effect on my system when taken for a cycle that runs less than 6 weeks with a decent PCT taken afterwards.

    Would you honestly be able to tell me that if I drop this Tbol cycle right now, I'd see the SAME strength gains I'll see at the end of this cycle, without it - even if I double the time period allowed (80 days) - just by going through my diet and training routine?? If you say yes, then by all means, Ill stop and try it your way.
    Yes you can easily see strength gains over a 2.5 month period. Look into the 5x5 training routine.

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