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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Thanks for the response. Cardio before weights is not recommended? Can I ask why? Again, most important to me is weight loss. Also, I find that I do not have the same intensity when doing weights firsts and I am more prone make an excuse and stop cardio early.
    Splitting the carbs makes sense. The romaine is about half a head.
    Meal 5 is once I get home from work, meal 6 is PWO and meal 7 is Post workout. I dont have much of a choice with meal 5, I have a 4 month old baby girl and need to watch her until my wife gets home to take over, so whatever is quick and easy and the shake and pb makes sense, which is also why I have to workout late, usually around 830PM.
    I found a TDEE calculator that says 3045 cals a day??? Is that right? Well, looks like another 300 cals is correct. That shouldnt be hard to add.

    So, with the fasted cardio in the AM, will that burn muscle up? I was under the impression it would? Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunacy View Post
    Thanks for the response. Cardio before weights is not recommended? Can I ask why? Again, most important to me is weight loss. Also, I find that I do not have the same intensity when doing weights firsts and I am more prone make an excuse and stop cardio early.
    Splitting the carbs makes sense. The romaine is about half a head.
    Meal 5 is once I get home from work, meal 6 is PWO and meal 7 is Post workout. I dont have much of a choice with meal 5, I have a 4 month old baby girl and need to watch her until my wife gets home to take over, so whatever is quick and easy and the shake and pb makes sense, which is also why I have to workout late, usually around 830PM.
    I found a TDEE calculator that says 3045 cals a day??? Is that right? Well, looks like another 300 cals is correct. That shouldnt be hard to add.

    So, with the fasted cardio in the AM, will that burn muscle up? I was under the impression it would? Thanks again
    Not sure what TDEE calculator you're using but either you've multiplied your BMR completely wrong or the site is useless. 3k cals sounds too high just use the link I gave you for your TDEE (When you get the multiplier use "Light-Moderate").

    The only time you put yourself at risk of losing muscle mass with cardio is high intensity or extended periods of cardio (regardless of intensity) without breaks. For example if you did like 2 hours of cardio straight you would torch your muscles. You will not torch your muscles doing cardio in the AM or after you lift weights. Aim for 60-70% of your max heart rate when doing cardio (usually the machines in the gym have an option to display this but you could choose other methods).

    Muscle burns fat, therefore the more muscle you put on the more fat you will burning. Increasing muscle mass is achieved through muscular atrophy (lifting weights). So by maximizing your weight lifting time you will maximize your muscle gain and therefore maximize your fat loss. When you do cardio before hand you won't have any energy to lift as heavier as you could and therefore have inadequate workouts.

    Mate, I don't want to offend you but your excuse for meal 5 is not going to fly. I'm a med student with 40 hours of class/week + working a part time job (18 hours a week), plus I have 2 dogs and a cat to look after, plus an I'm independent and cook and clean for myself and I still do just fine. What you want to do is take your day off (usually Sunday) and cook all your foods for the week in advance. Obviously you can't pre-cook some things but it will greatly reduce the amount of daily cooking you do. Salads are also faster than steaming vegetables (and easier to take on the go) so you can just put your dressing in a small tupperware container and distribute all your spinach or romaine or whatever in 6 other containers and do things of that nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Not sure what TDEE calculator you're using but either you've multiplied your BMR completely wrong or the site is useless. 3k cals sounds too high just use the link I gave you for your TDEE (When you get the multiplier use "Light-Moderate").

    Found its about 2600, good to know.

    The only time you put yourself at risk of losing muscle mass with cardio is high intensity or extended periods of cardio (regardless of intensity) without breaks. For example if you did like 2 hours of cardio straight you would torch your muscles. You will not torch your muscles doing cardio in the AM or after you lift weights. Aim for 60-70% of your max heart rate when doing cardio (usually the machines in the gym have an option to display this but you could choose other methods).

    So you dont recommend High Intensity Interval Training? Or just not really long intervals? I usually did weights first, just felt cardio first might be better since I am looking for weight loss. Looks like I will be changing back, thanks.

    Muscle burns fat, therefore the more muscle you put on the more fat you will burning. Increasing muscle mass is achieved through muscular atrophy (lifting weights). So by maximizing your weight lifting time you will maximize your muscle gain and therefore maximize your fat loss. When you do cardio before hand you won't have any energy to lift as heavier as you could and therefore have inadequate workouts.

    Agree 100% Thanks for the reminder.

    Mate, I don't want to offend you but your excuse for meal 5 is not going to fly. I'm a med student with 40 hours of class/week + working a part time job (18 hours a week), plus I have 2 dogs and a cat to look after, plus an I'm independent and cook and clean for myself and I still do just fine. What you want to do is take your day off (usually Sunday) and cook all your foods for the week in advance. Obviously you can't pre-cook some things but it will greatly reduce the amount of daily cooking you do. Salads are also faster than steaming vegetables (and easier to take on the go) so you can just put your dressing in a small tupperware container and distribute all your spinach or romaine or whatever in 6 other containers and do things of that nature.
    No offense taken at all. It these kind of excuses that have me pushing near 20%bf. I just need to put a little more effort into cooking. Its basically week one for me so there is going to a learning curve. All good info and I appreciate the help!

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