How old were you when you first cycled?

[borkach]

test should be first cycle! too bad it wasnt for me lol

[Nicky843]

no one would recommend you of dbol only cycle. i would say winstrol only might even be better but dbol is bullshit honestly!!!
no muscle weight at all. and if u keep some weight it will be fat and water.. a waste

what about dbol / test e would that be good? my stats are 198lb / 12 bf%

[Nicky843]

sorry for double post ^

[Lemonada8]

I love prop. and i'd recommend it to whoever wants advice on which ester.

u dont need a kick start (dbol)
less water retention
You actually feel it within the first week, gains the 2nd week
Its a true sacrifice with pinning ED but its way worth it.

[keithq1122]

what about dbol / test e would that be good? my stats are 198lb / 12 bf%

id go with deca/test e for 10 weeks and if you really want to use dbol start it day of your first shot and run it for 2 weeks.

[gixxerboy1]

id go with deca/test e for 10 weeks and if you really want to use dbol start it day of your first shot and run it for 2 weeks.

he is 20. why are you recommending a cycle especially 1 with 2 compounds

[Granovich]

he is 20. why are you recommending a cycle especially 1 with 2 compounds

he said for future use not now thats why Keith recommend this although its 2 compounds which is a lot for first time i would say

[gixxerboy1]

he said for future use not now thats why Keith recommend this although its 2 compounds which is a lot for first time i would say

no place in this tread does nicky say in the future. He gives his current stats without age. which is 20

[Damuscleman2011]

The young guys dont read forums, if so they would wait, but since they dont reaf the forums they dont know to post.. Lol
37 san 250 400ml week & dbol 40mg a day

[Koozer]

2 weeks short of 26 years old 12 weeks of Sust that was 16 years ago, too bad I did not know how to eat right in those days. Agree with L8 prop is the stuff gave me a bit of soreness but nothing that could not be handled. Worked fast and had a lot less bloat than the long esters done before I tried prop. My diet in those days was incorrect so I could have had better gains and less bloat/ blood pressure issues. If I ever hit the gear again prop will be #1 on my list but ed versus eod.

[Damuscleman2011]

The problem with youth is, its wasted on the young~ socrates

[Granovich]

no place in this tread does nicky say in the future. He gives his current stats without age. which is 20

he said in couple of years or so. here or another thread. cant remember lol

[markdbg]

ran one week before i was 19

[DGK]

i was 6, and i took everything but pct drugs..

[calstate23]

And what did you use?



curious

I was 10 years old and my jackass brother apparently thought it would be funny to see if I would gain some size....I've been screwed up since. Gave me 10 mg d bol a day and 150 mg test a week...I gained 15 lbs of fat because I was just a kid. I still have never forgave him

[Najeem]

21, 500mg SUST

[Shol'va]

Never...I don't use them cause they are against da law. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[Standby]

I was 10 years old and my jackass brother apparently thought it would be funny to see if I would gain some size....I've been screwed up since. Gave me 10 mg d bol a day and 150 mg test a week...I gained 15 lbs of fat because I was just a kid. I still have never forgave him

what the fvck? thats epic. you rbrother is a fool. i hope your joking lmao

[calstate23]

what the fvck? thats epic. you rbrother is a fool. i hope your joking lmao

Ha Ha I'm just messin...But that would've been classic

[nguadagno]

common sense question here: why do people use dbol to kick start a cycle if all it does is create water weight and bloat? whats the point then? or when combined do you hold onto the gains made by it where as alone you wouldnt? or is it just for people who are too impatient to wait for the secondary substance to kick in? IE enth or prop or anything else

[Nicky843]

ya sorry i meant for future use

[ACE5HIGH]

common sense question here: why do people use dbol to kick start a cycle if all it does is create water weight and bloat? whats the point then? or when combined do you hold onto the gains made by it where as alone you wouldnt? or is it just for people who are too impatient to wait for the secondary substance to kick in? IE enth or prop or anything else

I agree 100% however in addition it does add LOTS of strength, so that prob has much to do with its common use to kick start. Personally, Id rather run Prop as a kicker ANYDAY over orals... Thats just me, Id like to keep my liver past 40 and given my teen party days my liver needs all the love it can get

[Honkey_Kong]

Ha Ha I'm just messin...But that would've been classic

I remember hearing a story about that crazy wrestler Benoit injecting his retarded son with HGH so he'd grow up to be hyoooge.

[abuleh]

23yrs, Omnadren, Winny, Dbol

[nguadagno]

I agree 100% however in addition it does add LOTS of strength, so that prob has much to do with its common use to kick start. Personally, Id rather run Prop as a kicker ANYDAY over orals... Thats just me, Id like to keep my liver past 40 and given my teen party days my liver needs all the love it can get

so dbol is more a strength booster than a size booster? after the initial water bloat subsides? because i know a few friends who BLEW UP on dbol only cycles, they've simmered down now but they still kept some size but he got 10X stronger, also pinched a nerve in his shoulder probably from going way to hard on it and not being ready considering he worked out for like 3 months prior, do you think that could of been a factor?

[darkcrayz]

26 years old.

[ACE5HIGH]

so dbol is more a strength booster than a size booster?

Its both with lots of water, people dont tend to keep gains from d-bol if run alone.

But lets stay on subject

[RoidReaper]

19 yo

Tren only... yeah dumb move.

[PK-V]

19 epi

[nguadagno]

any lasting sides to both of you?

[PK-V]

I have an IgE mediated histamine thermoregulatory disorder which I have to take 80+ tablets a month to keep it under control

I first got the condition around the time I first used AAS, although I can't prove that it was a direct/indirect result of using AAS

Maybe I would have developed to condition anyway!? I will never know the answer to that question

Here is some real talk,

anything can happen when your manipulating your endocrine system when it's vulnerable

Everyone's genetic coding is different

You might be fine, you might end up worse than everyone else put together

It's up to you whether it's worth the risk!

[Devil_Doc]

26, 500mg Cyp 500mg Sust twice a week for 8 weeks.... highly suggest this stack as a starter... 24 pound gain with solid dieting (2 g protein per lb, 3g carb and 1/2 g fat ) no side effects noted, pct with clomid and A-HD by bpi

[Granovich]

26, 500mg Cyp 500mg Sust twice a week for 8 weeks.... highly suggest this stack as a starter... 24 pound gain with solid dieting (2 g protein per lb, 3g carb and 1/2 g fat ) no side effects noted, pct with clomid and A-HD by bpi

awesome !!!!

[Far from massive]

55 yrs old, I matured late and wanted to make sure my endocrine system was fully developed....Serious about the age, the endo part is a joke.

[RoidReaper]

any lasting sides to both of you?

Recovered fine.

[408gt91]

22 8 weeks of Deca 350 alone. i was shut down for 6 months. I was lucky i had a neighbor that was a bodybuilder, cause i was gonna run it for 16 weeks til he told me what i was doing to myself. Worst mistake ever.

[dkoslo22]

17 havoc, cycled from then on. now have low testosterone

[lovbyts]

Recovered fine.

Really, after reading a few of your post not long ago I would not say it was quite the way you make it sound. It's funny how many people will say Yeah they are fine, no problems or nothing to worry about although they went through months of problems, had worries, concerns, physical problems but after the fact it's all good? That's a human trait, we tend to forget about those things quickly or as I have said many times, people tend to lie and say everything is fine, no problems but in reality they cant sleep, have depression, ED....

Lets keep it real.