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    it will use additional amino acids (like muscle) because it increases the body's metabolism.. and my experience is even on low dose test/anavar it will still have some wasting effects on muscle, as well as fat..

    alone, 100mcg will increase your metabolism without a cycle you will lose about 50/50 muscle and fat..

    that's my experience..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    it will use additional amino acids (like muscle) because it increases the body's metabolism.. and my experience is even on low dose test/anavar it will still have some wasting effects on muscle, as well as fat..

    alone, 100mcg will increase your metabolism without a cycle you will lose about 50/50 muscle and fat..that's my experience..
    so does that mean it would work better for someone with a high...over 20% BF vs someone trying to go from 10% to single digits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgarr View Post
    so does that mean it would work better for someone with a high...over 20% BF vs someone trying to go from 10% to single digits?
    If you are just trying to lose weight, yes.

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    do you build up a tolerence to it? if so then is it best to cycle and if so what would a cycle look like? Doesn't sound like uping the amount is the best idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgarr View Post
    do you build up a tolerence to it? if so then is it best to cycle and if so what would a cycle look like? Doesn't sound like uping the amount is the best idea.
    Yes your body will build up a tolerance if used for to long so cycling is preferred. I would limit cycles to 6-8 weeks in order to avoid the body building up tolerances and as well as shutting down your thyroid permanently. Yeah a little T3 goes a long way so no need to run at high doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    it will use additional amino acids (like muscle) because it increases the body's metabolism.. and my experience is even on low dose test/anavar it will still have some wasting effects on muscle, as well as fat..

    alone, 100mcg will increase your metabolism without a cycle you will lose about 50/50 muscle and fat..

    that's my experience..

    Wow, it's that harsh? 50/50 is pretty insane. I would waste away to nothing before I got to a decent %.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    it will use additional amino acids (like muscle) because it increases the body's metabolism.. and my experience is even on low dose test/anavar it will still have some wasting effects on muscle, as well as fat..

    alone, 100mcg will increase your metabolism without a cycle you will lose about 50/50 muscle and fat..

    that's my experience..

    The validity of our data is further supported by the fact that only muscle protein breakdown was significantly increased in hyperthyroidism (p values between 1.8 and 3.1 %), whereas protein synthesis was not significantly affected (p values between 25 and 29 %)

    Whole body and forearm substrate metabolism in hyperthyroidism: Evidence of increased basal muscle protein breakdown. A.L.D. Riis, J.O.L. Jørgensen, S. Gjedde, H.Nørrelund, A.G. Jurik, K.S. Nair, P. Ivarsen, J. Weeke and N. Møller

    Is this true only between 1.8 and 3.1 % muscle loss?

    How accurate is phenylalanine kinetics for measuring muscle degradation

    And then with steroid use effecting all the different pathways to retain unnatural amounts of muscle it's a massive headache to answer as we don't have any real studies






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