Soy and it's possible effects.....????

[PK-V]

Have you got a food allergy test done?

Quiet a few people can be sensitive to the calcium caseinate component of milk

[jimmyinkedup]

This supposed effect of soy is highly overstated imo. Honestly i think its a crock. Id be shocked , in fact , if anyone could provide a credible study done on healthy males showing soy adversley effects testosterone levels or induces symtoms indicative of dangerous elevations in estrogen. In fact ive seen a study that showed an adverse imapct on testosterone that when looked at further it was discovered the results were inaccuarte due to one subject just coming off a steroid cycle. When his results were removed from the study it in fact showed a small incease in testosterone. This suggests that the phytoestrogens are acting with somewhat of a mild serm like effect. At the very least it suggets that they are completely innocuous in males (just like all plant sterols are imo). When i started working out i had access to a large supply of free whey /soy isolate belnd protein powder. I used it for a long time and made substantial gains with no adverse reactions. Also google vegitarian and vegan bodybuilders. You will be amazed how heavily they rely on soy. Howver in your case you have several options: soy / egg/ hemp/ pea. Most of your calories come in the form of whole foods anyway so i wouldnt worry much about a soy /egg protein shake or even a soley soy shake to help meet your protein requirements.

[inked1314]

Have you got a food allergy test done?

Quiet a few people can be sensitive to the calcium caseinate component of milk

Yes I have had a food allergy to milk since I was an infant. Possibly causing some of my size/mass issues? I have used soy based products before weight training started 5 years ago. It's never a good outcome after consuming whole milk for me. So after my sis had told me about this so called "Fact". I had to get on here and check with the pros. I am hesitant to use Caseinate protein supps as well for this reason. Not sure if I should even mention supps on this forum. I just figured it tied into my original question. As a side question, would you think Caseinate supps would be as "UPSETTING" to use as a whey protein? Read: whey wreaks havoc on my digestive system with extreame pregudice!