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    Quote Originally Posted by joslan View Post
    What you say makes sense to me, i dont know much but, it makes sense. I read many times where guys were doing 1000UI but again i dont understand all the mechanism. I have been injecting Cypionate for the past 5 months; i am injectring 100mg every Friday mid-morning, nothing else was added to the protocol until i was referred to this specialist. I had BW done on April 27th, just before my 8th injection. I started HCG 2 weeks ago, the protocol was 350UI on the 4th and 5th day. As far as having other side effects, i dont have any of those you mentioned; i am not getting cold, or sleepy, no joint pain and dont have low libido, as a matter of fact, last weekend my libido could not be better. I read your comment in regards to the possibility this sensation might not related to a spike of E2!! would you think or suggest i should restart HCG at a lower dose with more frequent injection and see if this sensation is coming back or more persistent? it is difficult for me to accurately describe this.. there is no pain, it is not really itchy; itchy for me is like a mosquito bite or something that is sort of systematic, like every time your shirt touch your nipples then you get a reaction; i felt a very mild, similar, sensation a couple of times in a week. let me know what you think
    Thanks Gdevine for your support and advices - Joslan
    Yes. Both GNBM and I have made a number of suggestions here for you; read above. You need HCG.

    Split your test injections to twice a week like Monday AM and Thursday PM. At the same time do 250 iu of HCG. You can also split your AI dosage and take that at the same time as well. Like GNBM stated, injecting 4 times a week for some can be a real pain in the ass...literally As for me, it doesn't bother me.

    The point is, you need HCG. Lower your dose to 250 iu and do twice a week and see how you feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Yes. Both GNBM and I have made a number of suggestions here for you; read above. You need HCG.

    Split your test injections to twice a week like Monday AM and Thursday PM. At the same time do 250 iu of HCG. You can also split your AI dosage and take that at the same time as well. Like GNBM stated, injecting 4 times a week for some can be a real pain in the ass...literally As for me, it doesn't bother me.

    The point is, you need HCG. Lower your dose to 250 iu and do twice a week and see how you feel.
    Thanks guys, i will certainly follow the suggested protocol for HCG and AI - not sure if i want to split the T injection in two as it is not very pleasant because it seems i have this unique ability to hit a nerve one out of three injection... Tell me, if i keep on with my current schedule, would it be ok to inject T + HCG and take arimidex on Friday then on Tuesday, injecting HCG and taking arimidex? please let me know if this makes sense and ONE LAST QUESTION: are there any side effects of Arimidex that i should know about? thanks Joslan
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    Quote Originally Posted by joslan View Post
    Thanks guys, i will certainly follow the suggested protocol for HCG and AI - not sure if i want to split the T injection in two as it is not very pleasant because it seems i have this unique ability to hit a nerve one out of three injection... Tell me, if i keep on with my current schedule, would it be ok to inject T + HCG and take arimidex on Friday then on Tuesday, injecting HCG and taking arimidex? please let me know if this makes sense and ONE LAST QUESTION: are there any side effects of Arimidex that i should know about? thanks Joslan
    Take both your T and AI all on the same day. Split your HCG as you stated.

    Neg side of too much AI is your E2 tanks (below 20) and you will have a lot of not so good symptoms. Do a search on those neg sides here (or Google) so you are aware of what to look for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Take both your T and AI all on the same day. Split your HCG as you stated.

    Neg side of too much AI is your E2 tanks (below 20) and you will have a lot of not so good symptoms. Do a search on those neg sides here (or Google) so you are aware of what to look for.
    i did some research and yes "a lot of no so good symptoms" it is... i will check that out for sure. What i dont get is, although my doc is considered a specialist in the field, he initially prescribed Arimidex 0.5 mg every day, which, if i am understanding you guys, could lower my level of estrogen rapidly. a question comes to mind: do i need a "loading" period of AI before resuming HCG? I want to thank you guys for your unconditional support - i think i am good to go frmo here. Thanks again - Joslan

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    Quote Originally Posted by joslan View Post
    i did some research and yes "a lot of no so good symptoms" it is... i will check that out for sure. What i dont get is, although my doc is considered a specialist in the field, he initially prescribed Arimidex 0.5 mg every day, which, if i am understanding you guys, could lower my level of estrogen rapidly. a question comes to mind: do i need a "loading" period of AI before resuming HCG? I want to thank you guys for your unconditional support - i think i am good to go frmo here. Thanks again - Joslan
    Your AI dosage is based primarily on your liver's ability to 1) metabolize E2 and 2) the amount of aromatase enzyme your body produces. General rule of thumb for most TRT Docs who "get it" is 1 mg of AI for each 100 mg of Test and eval about 6 to 8 week thereafter.

    The half life of AI is about the same as Test so taking both at the same time means more stable panels and better control over E2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Your AI dosage is based primarily on your liver's ability to 1) metabolize E2 and 2) the amount of aromatase enzyme your body produces. General rule of thumb for most TRT Docs who "get it" is 1 mg of AI for each 100 mg of Test and eval about 6 to 8 week thereafter.

    The half life of AI is about the same as Test so taking both at the same time means more stable panels and better control over E2.
    Good!!!.. OK so, since i am injecting 100mg of Cypionate, this means, i will take 1 mg of AI the very same day i am injecting. You dont want me or there is no need to spread it out at .5mg twice a week, correct? I go the HCG part. thanks again GDevine, it is really appreciated. Joslan

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    Quote Originally Posted by joslan View Post
    Good!!!.. OK so, since i am injecting 100mg of Cypionate, this means, i will take 1 mg of AI the very same day i am injecting. You dont want me or there is no need to spread it out at .5mg twice a week, correct? I go the HCG part. thanks again GDevine, it is really appreciated. Joslan
    Jos - Just my opinion of course; but I like spreading things out, not so much for how the esters are cleaved but for better E2 management. I split my 120 mg of Test into two 60 mg injected Monday AM and Thursday PM. At the same time of the injection I take .5 mg of AI. Some guys do well on once a week others twice a week. Test it for yourself and see how you feel. You be the judge.

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