"Warning" Gay Marriage Discussion

[spywizard]

So getting back on subject, we'll assume he's against same sex marriage..

anyone else?? because i haven't heard anyone champion the virtues yet.

[Shol'va]

So getting back on subject, we'll assume he's against same sex marriage..

anyone else?? because i haven't heard anyone champion the virtues yet.

What am I chopped liver? You ask the virtues so I'm guessing that you mean the virtues of gays being married as in same sex marriage? Well lets see now, hmmm, let me think about that one. You know one thing is, no wait, that ain't right, well then there is, no that wont work either. On second thought I can't think of any. I'll get back to you on that.......
Ok I'm back, well I had to do some meditation, and then it came to me, I'll google Virtue for further reference to the specifics of this question and so I did and this is the out come....
Virtue: Is a moral excellence, A virtue is a trait or quality subjectively deemed to be morally excellent and thus is valued as a foundation of principle and good moral being.
So I'm watching Jerry Springer, Maurey Povich, Dr. Phill, Oprah Winfrey on tv every day with married couples screwing around on each other and wanting divorces all the friggen time
So that got me to thinking what kind of marriage has that? You know Virtue? Definitely not the straight one. So why should gays be held to any more of a standard than straights? Eh such is life. But from my perspective personally I don't care about marriage license or the marriage itself, but I want those rights, protections and privileges that straight marriage incurs.

[spywizard]

What am I chopped liver? You ask the virtues so I'm guessing that you mean the virtues of gays being married as in same sex marriage? Well lets see now, hmmm, let me think about that one. You know one thing is, no wait, that ain't right, well then there is, no that wont work either. On second thought I can't think of any. I'll get back to you on that.......
Ok I'm back, well I had to do some meditation, and then it came to me, I'll google Virtue for further reference to the specifics of this question and so I did and this is the out come....
Virtue: Is a moral excellence, A virtue is a trait or quality subjectively deemed to be morally excellent and thus is valued as a foundation of principle and good moral being.
So I'm watching Jerry Springer, Maurey Povich, Dr. Phill, Oprah Winfrey on tv every day with married couples screwing around on each other and wanting divorces all the friggen time
So that got me to thinking what kind of marriage has that? You know Virtue? Definitely not the straight one. So why should gays be held to any more of a standard than straights? Eh such is life. But from my perspective personally I don't care about marriage license or the marriage itself, but I want those rights, protections and privileges that straight marriage incurs.

Ok, i'll bite.. the purpose of marriage is an idea that Men came up with (not women) the reason was to ensure (or rather to better ensure) that no other man was impregnating her. The "laws of the land" in the most recent history do not discriminate in most states or rather in regards property rights, medical health decisions and rights to access the person's time..

I guess the next thing is (since "marriage" is a religious ceremony historically speaking) the churches and should be stripped of their tax exempt status if they do not bend to the will of the people???


Wow, that brings up so many issues.. The will of the people, also known as democracy, or mob rule.

This isn't directed at you S, only to hold the conversation on point..

[brad1986]

Ok, i'll bite.. the purpose of marriage is an idea that Men came up with (not women) the reason was to ensure (or rather to better ensure) that no other man was impregnating her. The "laws of the land" in the most recent history do not discriminate in most states or rather in regards property rights, medical health decisions and rights to access the person's time..

I guess the next thing is (since "marriage" is a religious ceremony historically speaking) the churches and should be stripped of their tax exempt status if they do not bend to the will of the people???


Wow, that brings up so many issues.. The will of the people, also known as democracy, or mob rule.

This isn't directed at you S, only to hold the conversation on point..

If thats the case then whats the reason for not letting them marry... i mean you dont have to worry about a man inpregnating another man right? And if homosexuality was SOOOOOO wrong why did jesus only mention it one time? I belive he mentioned not juging others and love thy nieghbor much more often then he mentioned homosexuality. And it homosexuality is not natural then why does it occur in nature? The religious arguments are garbage and we have reserved the right not to cross church and state. With that said I want to hear a "real" reason why gay marriage should be banned. I can justify anything i do with biblical refrences but that doesnt make me right... its more less a way of justifying my reaction to an uncomfterble situation.

[amnkeefe]

Ok, i'll bite.. the purpose of marriage is an idea that Men came up with (not women) the reason was to ensure (or rather to better ensure) that no other man was impregnating her. The "laws of the land" in the most recent history do not discriminate in most states or rather in regards property rights, medical health decisions and rights to access the person's time..

I guess the next thing is (since "marriage" is a religious ceremony historically speaking) the churches and should be stripped of their tax exempt status if they do not bend to the will of the people???


Wow, that brings up so many issues.. The will of the people, also known as democracy, or mob rule.

This isn't directed at you S, only to hold the conversation on point..

This is exactly the reason we are not strictly a democracy. They wanted to prevent the majority, in this case religious people, from forcing their beliefs on the minority, in this case homosexuals. However, our system is not perfect and the wheels of justice turn slowly.